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« on: April 03, 2015, 07:59:48 AM »

Horrible term.

Seems to be mostly used by the innumerate to handwave away criticisms of absurd economic ideas.
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« Reply #1 on: April 03, 2015, 08:04:40 AM »
« Edited: April 03, 2015, 08:59:58 AM by Antonio V »

Freedom Term to describe a very serious malady of current political discourse.
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« Reply #2 on: April 03, 2015, 08:56:22 AM »

I've only heard Paul Krugman use it and he's a Princeton professor who won a Nobel prize in Economics.  So, I have to dispute that "innumerate" insult. 

To me, that term refers to the incorrect conventional wisdom from those who insist that we need to crack down on poor people, stop investing in education, infrastructure, the environment and strip our middle class society for spare parts because we don't have enough money!!! But, we have plenty of money for tax cuts, corporate welfare and endless wars and weapons.  Basically, it's the conventional wisdom of people who want to run America like a multinational corporation, downsize the labor costs and upsize the executives' stock options.  Instead, it's downsize any investment on people and upsize the power of the richest Americans and multinationals.
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2015, 09:09:30 AM »

Freedom Term, given that the people who fall into that category are the ones that more often than not hold actually absurd economic views. ("Austerity works!" "Teachers' unions are destroying public education!" "Privatization of Social Security will not be a gigantic disaster!")
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2015, 11:05:05 AM »

I've only heard Paul Krugman use it and he's a Princeton professor who won a Nobel prize in Economics.  So, I have to dispute that "innumerate" insult. 

To me, that term refers to the incorrect conventional wisdom from those who insist that we need to crack down on poor people, stop investing in education, infrastructure, the environment and strip our middle class society for spare parts because we don't have enough money!!! But, we have plenty of money for tax cuts, corporate welfare and endless wars and weapons.  Basically, it's the conventional wisdom of people who want to run America like a multinational corporation, downsize the labor costs and upsize the executives' stock options.  Instead, it's downsize any investment on people and upsize the power of the richest Americans and multinationals.
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« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2015, 03:40:57 PM »

An apt term directed against our Hedonistic Whiggish elite who thinks the current brand of secular humanistic atomistic individualism and neoliberal economics is the cutting edge wave of human history.
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« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2015, 03:42:40 PM »

Not terrible but primarily useful in practice for identifying what Nix correctly terms the "Not Very Serious People".

An apt term directed against our Hedonistic Whiggish elite who thinks the current brand of secular humanistic atomistic individualism and neoliberal economics is the cutting edge wave of human history.

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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2015, 03:59:24 PM »

This term implies Al Simpson takes himself very seriously, unlike Paul Krugman?
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2015, 04:46:58 PM »

An apt term directed against our Hedonistic Whiggish elite who thinks the current brand of secular humanistic atomistic individualism and neoliberal economics is the cutting edge wave of human history.
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2015, 04:57:32 PM »

An apt term directed against our Hedonistic Whiggish elite who thinks the current brand of secular humanistic atomistic individualism and neoliberal economics is the cutting edge wave of human history.
Please stop.
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2015, 06:17:12 PM »

A term used by quacks to criticise other quacks.
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2015, 06:22:22 PM »

An apt term directed against our Hedonistic Whiggish elite who thinks the current brand of secular humanistic atomistic individualism and neoliberal economics is the cutting edge wave of human history.

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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2015, 10:07:15 PM »

Horrible Term, as it implies that economic ideas that have failed every time they have been implemented are somehow "serious". "Very Delusional People" would be more accurate.

Freedom Term, given that the people who fall into that category are the ones that more often than not hold actually absurd economic views. ("Austerity works!" "Teachers' unions are destroying public education!" "Privatization of Social Security will not be a gigantic disaster!")

Don't forget "Cutting taxes for the rich creates jobs!"
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« Reply #13 on: April 04, 2015, 06:07:57 AM »

So is it just synonymous with 'small c conservativ'?
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« Reply #14 on: April 04, 2015, 06:10:39 AM »

So is it just synonymous with 'small c conservativ'?

Not at all. Many VSPs consider themselves left-of-center.
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« Reply #15 on: April 05, 2015, 09:29:06 PM »

I'm going to stick my neck out and say that I understood Mung Beans's post and more or less agree with it.
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« Reply #16 on: April 05, 2015, 09:36:13 PM »
« Edited: April 05, 2015, 09:38:48 PM by shua »

I'm going to stick my neck out and say that I understood Mung Beans's post and more or less agree with it.

I understood it (sort of), but it represents a different group of people than how this term is normally used.
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« Reply #17 on: April 06, 2015, 05:01:41 PM »

I'm going to stick my neck out and say that I understood Mung Beans's post and more or less agree with it.

I understood it (sort of), but it represents a different group of people than how this term is normally used.

You think so? I understood him to be talking about, basically, the Francis Fukuyamas of the world and their various spiritual successors.
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« Reply #18 on: April 06, 2015, 07:52:14 PM »

How I think of the term can be found here:

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Very_Serious_People

Anyway, FF...because often they do seem to have a serious demeanor and don't lighten up much.

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« Reply #19 on: April 06, 2015, 08:17:50 PM »

I'm going to stick my neck out and say that I understood Mung Beans's post and more or less agree with it.

I understood it (sort of), but it represents a different group of people than how this term is normally used.

You think so? I understood him to be talking about, basically, the Francis Fukuyamas of the world and their various spiritual successors.

"Very Serious People" is a term used to describe those who have concern about the generational impact of debt and write books called The Social Animal.
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« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2015, 08:55:05 PM »

I'm going to stick my neck out and say that I understood Mung Beans's post and more or less agree with it.

I understood it (sort of), but it represents a different group of people than how this term is normally used.

You think so? I understood him to be talking about, basically, the Francis Fukuyamas of the world and their various spiritual successors.

"Very Serious People" is a term used to describe those who have concern about the generational impact of debt and write books called The Social Animal.

Well speaking strictly on economic issues yes, but their worldview as a whole can be described along the lines described above.
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« Reply #21 on: April 07, 2015, 01:27:10 AM »

Was a decent counter to the utter lunacy of Simpson-Bowles.
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« Reply #22 on: April 08, 2015, 02:16:25 PM »

I'm going to stick my neck out and say that I understood Mung Beans's post and more or less agree with it.

I understood it (sort of), but it represents a different group of people than how this term is normally used.

You think so? I understood him to be talking about, basically, the Francis Fukuyamas of the world and their various spiritual successors.

"Very Serious People" is a term used to describe those who have concern about the generational impact of debt and write books called The Social Animal.

Well speaking strictly on economic issues yes, but their worldview as a whole can be described along the lines described above.

huh?
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« Reply #23 on: April 08, 2015, 02:32:33 PM »

I don't always agree with who the term are used against, but I still love the term.
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