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« on: June 26, 2014, 10:59:23 AM »

Please rank these potential candidates...

Chris Christie       
Scott Walker       
Jeb Bush   
Ted Cruz   
Mike Huckabee   
Paul Ryan       
Rand Paul       
Marco Rubio       
Rick Perry       
Rick Santorum       
John Huntsman       
John Kasich       
Peter King       
Ben Carson       
Mitt Romney       
Bobby Jindal       
Mike Pence       
Rick Synder       
John Thune           

... and yourself Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2014, 11:22:59 AM »
« Edited: June 26, 2014, 11:32:10 AM by ElectionsGuy »

Don't know if this is any bit accurate, but I'll try.

Me
John Huntsman
Chris Christie
Jeb Bush
Mitt Romney
John Thune
Paul Ryan
Mike Huckabee
Peter King
Mike Pence
John Kasich
Rick Perry
Marco Rubio
Rand Paul
Rick Santorum
Rick Snyder
Scott Walker
Ben Carson
Bobby Jindal
Ted Cruz

Not much difference between the candidates though. I did an overall assessment. Obviously certain candidates are different types of conservative, Peter King is going to be very far right on foreign policy while Santorum/Huckabee far right on social issues and Paul/Cruz far right on economic issues (well, Cruz is far right on everything). I'm too libertarian to be considered close to these guys politically.
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2014, 11:30:24 AM »
« Edited: June 26, 2014, 03:38:20 PM by Never »

Jon Huntsman
Peter King
Chris Christie
Jeb Bush
John Kasich
Mitt Romney
Paul Ryan
John Thune
Marco Rubio
-Me-
Rick Snyder
Scott Walker
Rand Paul
Mike Huckabee
Mike Pence
Bobby Jindal
Ben Carson
Rick Perry
Rick Santorum
Ted Cruz

Other than Huntsman, Santorum, and Cruz, it seems like most of the candidates would be considered mainstream Republicans. I put myself in the middle because I view myself as being a fairly generic Republican who espouses most of the positions of the party, and people like Thune, Rubio, and Walker seem to fit that mold.
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2014, 12:17:31 PM »

Don't know if this is any bit accurate, but I'll try.

Me
John Huntsman
Chris Christie
Jeb Bush
Mitt Romney
John Thune
Paul Ryan
Mike Huckabee
Peter King
Mike Pence
John Kasich
Rick Perry
Marco Rubio
Rand Paul
Rick Santorum
Rick Snyder
Scott Walker
Ben Carson
Bobby Jindal
Ted Cruz

Not much difference between the candidates though. I did an overall assessment. Obviously certain candidates are different types of conservative, Peter King is going to be very far right on foreign policy while Santorum/Huckabee far right on social issues and Paul/Cruz far right on economic issues (well, Cruz is far right on everything). I'm too libertarian to be considered close to these guys politically.

Snyder pushed heavily for Medicaid expansion, proposed doubling our registration fees to pay for road repairs, vetoed anti-abortion measures, vetoed a bill to allow guns into gun-free zones, has been very vocal about encouraging immigration in Michigan, and threw all of his weight behind building a second Ambassador Bridge early in his first term.

In short, on a left-right political spectrum, Rick Snyder would not be to the right of Rick Santorum, Mike Pence, or Mike Huckabee.
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2014, 12:33:07 PM »

I'm Bernie Sanders leftie, so no ranking from me lol. Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2014, 12:49:26 PM »

Me
Huntsman
Christie
Kasich
Bush
Thune
Romney
King
Pence
Rubio
Jindal
Huckabee
Ryan
Snyder
Paul
Perry
Walker
Santorum
Cruz
Carson
 
    
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« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2014, 01:33:05 PM »


Carson more conservative than Cruz? Are you crazy? What do you build that on?
His rethoric is actually pretty/very moderate. Maybe his positions are somewhat conservative, but I would imagine that they're still to the left of the vast majority of nowadays elected Republicans.
His Speech to the National Faith Breakfast or whatever it was called, was almost completely inoffensive for instance, despite of all the buzz it generated. The only two reasons it generated Buzz btw, was because the meeting was supposed to be apolitical and because Obama was sitting next to him (and he claimed to sit on the prototype of a much better healthcare system, according to him, than the Affordable Care Act). He has had a couple of gaffes in public, but he's later gone back on those and apologized. Maybe he's quite a bit old-fashioned on certain social issues like gay marriage and its like, but then again most other grassroot conservatives & Republican politicians are as well; especially within the two categories which he obviously embodies; people of faith and black conservatives (both being much more to the right than the average conservative, especially on social issues). I'm not saying that he has mostly moderate positions of course, but to label him as The Devil in a party of a million devils, is a bit laughable I think. If not for anything else, simply because we know his positions on a very limited range of issues so far. Which is normal, since he had no political background prior to that speech. His appeal to grassroot tea partiers hasn't so much to do With his conservativism than With him being a fresh face, coupled with him being so different from 99% of the hardcore tea partiers; being both black and highly educated as well as accomplished. Tea partiers have a desperate need to associate themselves with big success stories, modern day Reagans if you will, and they quickly figured out that they could use Carson as that little teddybear of theirs. Carson is definitely to the left of Cruz, even if some of his comments (mostly on gay marriage; perhaps one or two other issues as well) have been a bit insensitive. Carson is basically the image of a gentleman, I bet you can't even get him angry. A polite tea partier without anger is of little use, isn't it? The movement is all about anger and hatred, Carson has neither.
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« Reply #7 on: June 26, 2014, 02:28:46 PM »

Me
Huntsman
Christie
Snyder
Kasich
Bush
Thune
Romney
Paul
King
Ryan
Walker
Pence
Rubio
Jindal
Huckabee
Perry
Santorum
Carson
Cruz
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« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2014, 02:49:37 PM »

Me

(Massive gap)

Jon Huntsman
Rand Paul
Mike Huckabee
Rick Santorum
Jeb Bush
Rick Perry
John Thune
Chris Christie
Paul Ryan
Marco Rubio
Mike Pence
John Kasich
Bobby Jindal
Rick Snyder
Ted Cruz
Ben Carson
Scott Walker
Mitt Romney
Peter King
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« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2014, 02:59:56 PM »

Jon Huntsman's first name is written without h.
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« Reply #10 on: June 26, 2014, 03:14:24 PM »


John Huntsman   
Rick Synder
John Kasich           
Scott Walker   
Mitt Romney          
Chris Christie       
Jeb Bush   
Peter King   
Rand Paul       
Mike Huckabee   
Marco Rubio   
Mike Pence           
John Thune           
Rick Perry   
Paul Ryan   
Bobby Jindal      
Ben Carson      
Rick Santorum       
Ted Cruz
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« Reply #11 on: June 26, 2014, 11:09:58 PM »
« Edited: June 26, 2014, 11:14:44 PM by sjkqw »

Not going to pretend to know every position of some of these governors like Kasich and Snyder, but I must interject on Huntsman. I know the perception of him may be pretty far to the left of all the others, but why? Outside of allowing same sex marriage, immigration and working in the Obama administration (which should not count, but again perception). He is likely in the top 3 or 4 (behind Paul and Cruz and maybe Ryan or Carson?) to the right on economic issues so SSM and immigration are certainly not enough to counteract that. I thought this forum had established that two years ago.

Meanwhile, social conservatives like Mike Huckabee (who I love despite political differences), are pretty close to the center on economic issues even with the FairTax - to the left of everyone but Giuliani and McCain when he ran. His social conservatism is often way overestimated too because of his religiosity but his perception will never change because he is seen as a leader of the Tea Party.  Likely, Rick Santorum fits the category as well though I remember one statement in 2012 from him that said only he and Gary Johnson were had proper plans to fix the budget or something. Recent rhetoric suggests he has moved towards populism however.
WaPo's recent rankings (as many problems as I have with the list), seems to agree that Huckabee is not Tea Party (or conservative which I believe they used interchangeably) despite his role in choosing Tea Party candidates. One of the most moderate candidates in their estimation and that was one of the things that they got right.

Really hard to rank the candidates on just one axis because everyone has a different base of "conservatives".
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« Reply #12 on: June 27, 2014, 04:05:04 AM »


Carson more conservative than Cruz? Are you crazy? What do you build that on?
His rethoric is actually pretty/very moderate. Maybe his positions are somewhat conservative, but I would imagine that they're still to the left of the vast majority of nowadays elected Republicans.
His Speech to the National Faith Breakfast or whatever it was called, was almost completely inoffensive for instance, despite of all the buzz it generated. The only two reasons it generated Buzz btw, was because the meeting was supposed to be apolitical and because Obama was sitting next to him (and he claimed to sit on the prototype of a much better healthcare system, according to him, than the Affordable Care Act). He has had a couple of gaffes in public, but he's later gone back on those and apologized. Maybe he's quite a bit old-fashioned on certain social issues like gay marriage and its like, but then again most other grassroot conservatives & Republican politicians are as well; especially within the two categories which he obviously embodies; people of faith and black conservatives (both being much more to the right than the average conservative, especially on social issues). I'm not saying that he has mostly moderate positions of course, but to label him as The Devil in a party of a million devils, is a bit laughable I think. If not for anything else, simply because we know his positions on a very limited range of issues so far. Which is normal, since he had no political background prior to that speech. His appeal to grassroot tea partiers hasn't so much to do With his conservativism than With him being a fresh face, coupled with him being so different from 99% of the hardcore tea partiers; being both black and highly educated as well as accomplished. Tea partiers have a desperate need to associate themselves with big success stories, modern day Reagans if you will, and they quickly figured out that they could use Carson as that little teddybear of theirs. Carson is definitely to the left of Cruz, even if some of his comments (mostly on gay marriage; perhaps one or two other issues as well) have been a bit insensitive. Carson is basically the image of a gentleman, I bet you can't even get him angry. A polite tea partier without anger is of little use, isn't it? The movement is all about anger and hatred, Carson has neither.

Sorry, I wasn't thinking clearly when I made this post in the morning. I'd probably put Carson somewhere above Walker.
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« Reply #13 on: June 27, 2014, 09:28:13 AM »

Peter King
Jeb Bush   
Chris Christie   
Mike Huckabee    
Rick Santorum       
Mitt Romney
Paul Ryan       
John Thune       
Rick Snyder    
John Kasich      
Scott Walker           
Jon Huntsman       
Rick Perry       
Mike Pence       
Bobby Jindal       
Ben Carson      
Marco Rubio
Ted Cruz    
Rand Paul   
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2014, 01:59:59 PM »

Peter King
Jeb Bush   
Chris Christie   
Mike Huckabee    
Rick Santorum       
Mitt Romney
Paul Ryan       
John Thune       
Rick Snyder    
John Kasich      
Scott Walker           
Jon Huntsman       
Rick Perry       
Mike Pence       
Bobby Jindal       
Ben Carson      
Marco Rubio
Ted Cruz    
Rand Paul   
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This is by far the most accurate. For me, maybe Rubio to the left a little and Ryan/Walker/Huntsman to the right of Perry and Pence but these seems on target.
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« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2014, 09:59:20 PM »


Carson more conservative than Cruz? Are you crazy? What do you build that on?
His rethoric is actually pretty/very moderate. Maybe his positions are somewhat conservative, but I would imagine that they're still to the left of the vast majority of nowadays elected Republicans.
His Speech to the National Faith Breakfast or whatever it was called, was almost completely inoffensive for instance, despite of all the buzz it generated. The only two reasons it generated Buzz btw, was because the meeting was supposed to be apolitical and because Obama was sitting next to him (and he claimed to sit on the prototype of a much better healthcare system, according to him, than the Affordable Care Act). He has had a couple of gaffes in public, but he's later gone back on those and apologized. Maybe he's quite a bit old-fashioned on certain social issues like gay marriage and its like, but then again most other grassroot conservatives & Republican politicians are as well; especially within the two categories which he obviously embodies; people of faith and black conservatives (both being much more to the right than the average conservative, especially on social issues). I'm not saying that he has mostly moderate positions of course, but to label him as The Devil in a party of a million devils, is a bit laughable I think. If not for anything else, simply because we know his positions on a very limited range of issues so far. Which is normal, since he had no political background prior to that speech. His appeal to grassroot tea partiers hasn't so much to do With his conservativism than With him being a fresh face, coupled with him being so different from 99% of the hardcore tea partiers; being both black and highly educated as well as accomplished. Tea partiers have a desperate need to associate themselves with big success stories, modern day Reagans if you will, and they quickly figured out that they could use Carson as that little teddybear of theirs. Carson is definitely to the left of Cruz, even if some of his comments (mostly on gay marriage; perhaps one or two other issues as well) have been a bit insensitive. Carson is basically the image of a gentleman, I bet you can't even get him angry. A polite tea partier without anger is of little use, isn't it? The movement is all about anger and hatred, Carson has neither.
Have you ever even met a single person who supports the Tea Party?
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2014, 10:36:52 AM »

Huntsman
Christie
Me
Kasich
Bush
Thune
Romney
King
Pence
Rubio
Jindal
Huckabee
Ryan
Snyder
Paul
Perry
Walker
Santorum
Cruz
Carson
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