with the current state of the GOP, 3-way election come 2016?

[StateBoiler]

Was reading about the Import-Export Bank and it kind of hit that while I'm not saying it's likely,  it strikes me as a greater likelihood a credible 3rd candidate (with more support than Nader) than any time since Perot.

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

the left was fantasizing about this in 2012 too.
don't hold your breath.

[StateBoiler]

the left was fantasizing about this in 2012 too.
don't hold your breath.

The Republican Majority Leader of the House wasn't voted out of office in his primary in 2012 either. People in his party are openly hostile to the Speaker to the point he can't even come out and make a definitive statement on the Import-Export Bank - a bank where members of the Republican Party are openly going against Big Business, which is pretty astonishing when you think of Democratic criticisms of Republicans' too cozy relationship with business over the years.

I just see some Bloomberg type running.

[Never]

the left was fantasizing about this in 2012 too.
don't hold your breath.

The Republican Majority Leader of the House wasn't voted out of office in his primary in 2012 either. People in his party are openly hostile to the Speaker to the point he can't even come out and make a definitive statement on the Import-Export Bank - a bank where members of the Republican Party are openly going against Big Business, which is pretty astonishing when you think of Democratic criticisms of Republicans' too cozy relationship with business over the years.

I just see some Bloomberg type running.

New House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy did say that the Export-Import Bank should be closed.

Sure, Speaker Boehner hasn't commented on this issue, because one of his responsibilities is to take into account the views of his caucus before making a statement, while McCarthy might have more leeway to speak his mind as second-in-command.  I don't really see a rift within the GOP on this issue.

[StateBoiler]

the left was fantasizing about this in 2012 too.
don't hold your breath.

The Republican Majority Leader of the House wasn't voted out of office in his primary in 2012 either. People in his party are openly hostile to the Speaker to the point he can't even come out and make a definitive statement on the Import-Export Bank - a bank where members of the Republican Party are openly going against Big Business, which is pretty astonishing when you think of Democratic criticisms of Republicans' too cozy relationship with business over the years.

I just see some Bloomberg type running.

New House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy did say that the Export-Import Bank should be closed.

Sure, Speaker Boehner hasn't commented on this issue, because one of his responsibilities is to take into account the views of his caucus before making a statement, while McCarthy might have more leeway to speak his mind as second-in-command.  I don't really see a rift within the GOP on this issue.

you honestly don't think there's a rift in the broader GOP beyond Capitol Hill to shut down a bank there's no replacement for that will cost domestic-based business billions of dollars and jobs as well? and that's just one issue, the inflammatory primaries this election season are another

How does one candidate placate both groups in the GOP right now?

[Never]

the left was fantasizing about this in 2012 too.
don't hold your breath.

The Republican Majority Leader of the House wasn't voted out of office in his primary in 2012 either. People in his party are openly hostile to the Speaker to the point he can't even come out and make a definitive statement on the Import-Export Bank - a bank where members of the Republican Party are openly going against Big Business, which is pretty astonishing when you think of Democratic criticisms of Republicans' too cozy relationship with business over the years.

I just see some Bloomberg type running.

New House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy did say that the Export-Import Bank should be closed.

Sure, Speaker Boehner hasn't commented on this issue, because one of his responsibilities is to take into account the views of his caucus before making a statement, while McCarthy might have more leeway to speak his mind as second-in-command.  I don't really see a rift within the GOP on this issue.

you honestly don't think there's a rift in the broader GOP beyond Capitol Hill to shut down a bank there's no replacement for that will cost domestic-based business billions of dollars and jobs as well? and that's just one issue, the inflammatory primaries this election season are another

I would argue that the private sector is fully capable of operating something like the Export-Import bank. Having it propped up by the taxpayers seems to be corporate welfare. It's worth noting that candidate Obama in 2008 criticized the Ex-Im bank.

[StateBoiler]

the left was fantasizing about this in 2012 too.
don't hold your breath.

The Republican Majority Leader of the House wasn't voted out of office in his primary in 2012 either. People in his party are openly hostile to the Speaker to the point he can't even come out and make a definitive statement on the Import-Export Bank - a bank where members of the Republican Party are openly going against Big Business, which is pretty astonishing when you think of Democratic criticisms of Republicans' too cozy relationship with business over the years.

I just see some Bloomberg type running.

New House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy did say that the Export-Import Bank should be closed.

Sure, Speaker Boehner hasn't commented on this issue, because one of his responsibilities is to take into account the views of his caucus before making a statement, while McCarthy might have more leeway to speak his mind as second-in-command.  I don't really see a rift within the GOP on this issue.

you honestly don't think there's a rift in the broader GOP beyond Capitol Hill to shut down a bank there's no replacement for that will cost domestic-based business billions of dollars and jobs as well? and that's just one issue, the inflammatory primaries this election season are another

I would argue that the private sector is fully capable of operating something like the Export-Import bank. Having it propped up by the taxpayers seems to be corporate welfare. It's worth noting that candidate Obama in 2008 criticized the Ex-Im bank.

You completely missed the point of the post. I am not arguing the merits or lack thereof of closing the bank, it's irrelevant to the thread. If American business themselves as a collective perceive they are harmed by legislative actions of the Republican Party, why would said people continue supporting the Republican Party going forward? The Democrats aren't good representatives for them either.

Then you throw in all these primaries at the moment, and imagine what a presidential primary cycle is going to look like.

[Mister Mets]

Still not seeing how this leads to a likelihood of a credible third-party candidate.

For example, there's no indication that the people who voted against Cantor in the primary would have gone for a third party candidate.

Nor have crazy Republicans sent moderates fleeing to third party candidates.

[Never]

the left was fantasizing about this in 2012 too.
don't hold your breath.

The Republican Majority Leader of the House wasn't voted out of office in his primary in 2012 either. People in his party are openly hostile to the Speaker to the point he can't even come out and make a definitive statement on the Import-Export Bank - a bank where members of the Republican Party are openly going against Big Business, which is pretty astonishing when you think of Democratic criticisms of Republicans' too cozy relationship with business over the years.

I just see some Bloomberg type running.

New House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy did say that the Export-Import Bank should be closed.

Sure, Speaker Boehner hasn't commented on this issue, because one of his responsibilities is to take into account the views of his caucus before making a statement, while McCarthy might have more leeway to speak his mind as second-in-command.  I don't really see a rift within the GOP on this issue.

you honestly don't think there's a rift in the broader GOP beyond Capitol Hill to shut down a bank there's no replacement for that will cost domestic-based business billions of dollars and jobs as well? and that's just one issue, the inflammatory primaries this election season are another

I would argue that the private sector is fully capable of operating something like the Export-Import bank. Having it propped up by the taxpayers seems to be corporate welfare. It's worth noting that candidate Obama in 2008 criticized the Ex-Im bank.

You completely missed the point of the post. I am not arguing the merits or lack thereof of closing the bank, it's irrelevant to the thread. If American business themselves as a collective perceive they are harmed by legislative actions of the Republican Party, why would said people continue supporting the Republican Party going forward? The Democrats aren't good representatives for them either.

Then you throw in all these primaries at the moment, and imagine what a presidential primary cycle is going to look like.

My apologies for not moving the conversation in the direction that you intended. Honestly, I don't think that businesses feel significantly threatened by either party, contrary to the hyperbole we see about government attitudes towards business. I would argue that the potential legislative actions surrounding the Ex-Im bank won't have much of an impact one way or another. In short, the pro-business wing of the Republican party will probably remain intact. It will take a great deal more than the current state of the GOP to give a third-party candidate an opening in 2016.