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« on: May 20, 2014, 11:42:48 PM »

This was essentially the worst-case scenario for Democrats. The 2 strongest candidates (David Perdue and Jack Kingston) are advancing to the runoff.

3 questions:

1) Which one is favored in the runoff?
2) Which one would Nunn rather face?
3) How are her chances of beating either of them?
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« Reply #1 on: May 20, 2014, 11:48:09 PM »

The differences cancel each other.

Both have gaffes. Perdue has money, Kingston has appeal in South Georgia.
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« Reply #2 on: May 20, 2014, 11:51:48 PM »

1. Perdue
2. Kingston
3. 40% against Perdue, 55% against Kingston, although Kingston can perform well in South Georgia as Yankee said, and Perdue seems to be prone to gaffes along the lines of "I'm smarter than these redneck hicks".
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« Reply #3 on: May 20, 2014, 11:58:45 PM »
« Edited: May 21, 2014, 12:04:32 AM by ModerateVAVoter »

Unlike many of the posters here, I think Nunn's opening is getting narrower and narrower. I can conceivably see her getting up to 48%, but crossing 50% + 1 is another story. She simply will not win in a run-off.

1) This is tough for me, because I see both as having advantages. Perdue has the geographic advantage near Atlanta, and can self-fund. Kingston has the Chamber, and I think he's less objectionable to Handel/Broun/Gingrey voters than Perdue. I think Perdue has an edge, but it could really go either way.

2) I think Kingston, just because Perdue might overperform him with the suburban Atlanta vote.

3) Under present conditions, I don't see her beating either.
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« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2014, 12:02:47 AM »

Metro Atlanta vote that Nunn is banking on is entirely consisting of youngs and minorities with few exceptions that I just don't see either Perdue or Kingston cutting into. Granted there are more swing voters than there use to be there, but if anyone is going to cut into votes she is counting on, it would be Kingston in South Georgia per what Bacon King has said on these matters. Those are the type of voters that Perdue's elitism would turn off and whilst Conservative, they love her father and would consider voting for her.
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« Reply #5 on: May 21, 2014, 12:06:52 AM »

1) I think Perdue is favored in the runoff because of his appeal in Metro Atlanta and his reputation as a Washington outsider.  Kingston has votes that could hurt him.  It will be close either way; Perdue will try to paint Kingston as a Washington insider while Kingston will attack Perdue for being too elitist.

2) I think Perdue, just because Kingston could cut into the South Georgia vote she would need.  Also, I think the Chamber and other "establishment" organizations wouldn't spend as much on Perdue in the GE as they would Kingston.

3) Nunn isn't going to beat either one of them.  
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« Reply #6 on: May 21, 2014, 12:34:40 AM »

I'd say Perdue wins the runoff. As for who I want to see win, its close to a wash. Perdue is a first-time candidate and seems more gaffe-prone, but he has the luxury of being able to self-fund. I personally find Kingston more likeable, but may struggle in metro Atlanta.
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« Reply #7 on: May 21, 2014, 12:48:38 AM »

1. Perdue
2. Kingston
3. I think they're about the same because, as Yankee said, the negatives cancel each other out.
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« Reply #8 on: May 21, 2014, 01:57:03 AM »

What ModerateVAvoter  said.

I wouldn't say this is over but republcans are clearly favored (lean rep at worst).
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« Reply #9 on: May 21, 2014, 08:52:20 AM »

1) Perdue is definitely favored in the runoff. Among other things, he practically has Metro Atlanta to himself.
2) I think Nunn would rather face Kingston, because it seems like Perdue's supporters are particularly loyal to him, and I seriously doubt that Kingston's voters are going to jump ship to Nunn.  On the other hand, I think that some of Perdue's supporters would vote for Nunn if Kingston is nominated.
3) Nunn is definitely going to lose against Perdue, her chances against him are about 30 or 40%. Against Kingston, she probably has a 40% chance of victory. Before last night's primaries, I really discounted Kingston, as I didn't realize how solid his base of support was in South Georgia. He might not do that well in Metro Atlanta, but if Kingston can isolate Nunn to that area, she is going to lose.
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« Reply #10 on: May 21, 2014, 11:32:45 AM »

1) Perdue
2) Perdue
3) It's a straight tossup either way with each of the candidates, but while common perception says that Nunn should hope to face Kingston, I think Perdue is more vulnerable to her. Perdue has already had the elitist out of touch problem in the primary that almost allowed Handel to shoot into the run-off, and made a pretty bad gaffe about revenue increases that Nunn can attack him for being inconsistent on. I think what people have to remember is that the longer and nastier the run-off gets, the bigger shot Nunn has at victory. Perdue seems to have somewhat of a soft skin, while Kingston has everything to lose (he gave up his Congress seat!) if he doesn't win. The right flank is really up for grabs here, and Perdue would look a lot worse than Kingston would by running to the right.
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« Reply #11 on: May 21, 2014, 12:16:02 PM »

Unlike many of the posters here, I think Nunn's opening is getting narrower and narrower. I can conceivably see her getting up to 48%, but crossing 50% + 1 is another story. She simply will not win in a run-off.

That's not how Georgia does it, is it?
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« Reply #12 on: May 21, 2014, 12:21:45 PM »

Unlike many of the posters here, I think Nunn's opening is getting narrower and narrower. I can conceivably see her getting up to 48%, but crossing 50% + 1 is another story. She simply will not win in a run-off.

That's not how Georgia does it, is it?

Actually, it is. Some Southern states have rules in place requiring that a candidate make it to 50% before they can be considered the victor.

A general election runoff most recently occurred in 2008.
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« Reply #13 on: May 21, 2014, 08:46:19 PM »

Much less than before last night.
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« Reply #14 on: May 21, 2014, 08:50:04 PM »

I'd say somewhere between a lean and a likely. I'm admittedly torn between who would be stronger though - while Kingston has a lot more appeal to rural voters, Perdue has enough money to keep up with Nunn.

I'd say less than Carter though.
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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2014, 09:03:47 PM »

I'd say somewhere between a lean and a likely. I'm admittedly torn between who would be stronger though - while Kingston has a lot more appeal to rural voters, Perdue has enough money to keep up with Nunn.

I'd say less than Carter though.

Lean and likely R, right?
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