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Question: Party of Preference for the 2013 elections
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CDU/CSU (center-right)
 
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FDP (classical liberal)
 
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SPD (center-left)
 
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Greens (left/liberal)
 
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Die Linke (socialist)
 
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AFD (anti-Euro)
 
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Pirate Party (progressive libertarian)
 
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NPD (neo-nazi)
 
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Total Voters: 61

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« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2013, 08:04:02 PM »

I'm convinced we done one of these German polls a couple of months back, but can't for the life of me find it. Anyone remember it, or am I cracking up?
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« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2013, 08:14:46 PM »

CDU. According to that quiz (taking these on Google Translate is fun Tongue), I came up somewhere between CDU and AfD, but considering AfD is currently an afterthought party, clearly CDU. I've generally assumed I would be toward the Eurosceptic end of things but if I actually lived there, who knows.
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« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2013, 08:47:22 PM »

The new JulioMadrid supports Die Linke. The old one (the one who died in May-June) would have voted for SPD. The less-old one (July) would have been a Green supporter. Now, I lean Linke but Greens and SPD are still a possibility if Die Linke keeps saying that they will not support SPD in any case. All I want is Merkel out of the Government.

If your number one priority is to get Merkel out of office, Die Linke probably shouldn't be your first voting choice...

@voting for a Grand Coalition
Left and Green are your only options if that is your aim. A vote for the SPD is a vote for Merkel.

Are the pirates like the SPD in that sense too? I don't know much about their positions on economic issues.

I'm convinced we done one of these German polls a couple of months back, but can't for the life of me find it. Anyone remember it, or am I cracking up?

Yeah, I remember it too. I believe this is the thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=175808.0
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« Reply #28 on: August 26, 2013, 09:02:16 PM »

Thanks!
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« Reply #29 on: August 26, 2013, 10:12:59 PM »

Took the quiz and was equidistant between CDU & AfD. I'd vote CDU for reasons TJ already described.
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« Reply #30 on: August 26, 2013, 10:19:53 PM »

The new JulioMadrid supports Die Linke. The old one (the one who died in May-June) would have voted for SPD. The less-old one (July) would have been a Green supporter. Now, I lean Linke but Greens and SPD are still a possibility if Die Linke keeps saying that they will not support SPD in any case. All I want is Merkel out of the Government.

If your number one priority is to get Merkel out of office, Die Linke probably shouldn't be your first voting choice...

@voting for a Grand Coalition
Left and Green are your only options if that is your aim. A vote for the SPD is a vote for Merkel.

Considering the status that Die Linke has within German politics (that is, on the wrong side of a cordon sanitaire)... wouldn't a vote for them also be a vote for Merkel?
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« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2013, 01:32:55 AM »

[1] FDP
[2] CDU/CSU
[3] SPD

[4] Pirate


[5] Green

[6] Linke



[7] NPD
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« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2013, 01:10:53 PM »

The new JulioMadrid supports Die Linke. The old one (the one who died in May-June) would have voted for SPD. The less-old one (July) would have been a Green supporter. Now, I lean Linke but Greens and SPD are still a possibility if Die Linke keeps saying that they will not support SPD in any case. All I want is Merkel out of the Government.

If your number one priority is to get Merkel out of office, Die Linke probably shouldn't be your first voting choice...

@voting for a Grand Coalition
Left and Green are your only options if that is your aim. A vote for the SPD is a vote for Merkel.

Considering the status that Die Linke has within German politics (that is, on the wrong side of a cordon sanitaire)... wouldn't a vote for them also be a vote for Merkel?
Not if we get a majority to the Left of the SPD. Grin
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« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2013, 03:02:07 PM »

if we can get 2 more votes (even 50) I will do some coalition calculations
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« Reply #34 on: August 27, 2013, 03:12:15 PM »

The new JulioMadrid supports Die Linke. The old one (the one who died in May-June) would have voted for SPD. The less-old one (July) would have been a Green supporter. Now, I lean Linke but Greens and SPD are still a possibility if Die Linke keeps saying that they will not support SPD in any case. All I want is Merkel out of the Government.

If your number one priority is to get Merkel out of office, Die Linke probably shouldn't be your first voting choice...

@voting for a Grand Coalition
Left and Green are your only options if that is your aim. A vote for the SPD is a vote for Merkel.

Considering the status that Die Linke has within German politics (that is, on the wrong side of a cordon sanitaire)... wouldn't a vote for them also be a vote for Merkel?
Not if we get a majority to the Left of the SPD. Grin


Right then.  My impression is that even the Greens don't want anything to do with Die Linke, so, um, good luck with that.
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« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2013, 03:21:01 PM »

The problem is exacerbated at the federal level because of the Left's lack of support for Mssrs Bush & Obama's wars and Germany's NATO membership, of course. So joining a federal goverment would, at current, be realistically impossible / create a minor international crisis.
But apart from that and at the state level... once the Hartz IV / Rente mit 67 culprits have retired from the SPD leadership there won't be much of a problem left. Much to the CDU's chagrin.
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« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2013, 04:24:35 PM »

1) FDP
2) CD/SU
3) AfD
4) Greens/All90
5) SPD
6) Pirates
7) Linke
Cool NPD
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« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2013, 04:37:26 PM »

The SPD's getting clobbered Sad
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« Reply #38 on: August 28, 2013, 12:34:28 PM »

Deservedly.
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« Reply #39 on: August 28, 2013, 12:43:40 PM »

1.FDP
2.AFD
3. CDU
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« Reply #40 on: August 28, 2013, 01:27:34 PM »

Coalition % calculations as promised.

Straight conservative coalition of CDU/CSU+FDP= 38.5%

Traditional left coalition of Greens+SPD=28.9%

A straight left coalition of Greens+SPD+Linke= 46.2%

A grand left coalition of Greens+SPD+Linke+Pirates=55.8%

A grand conservative leaning coalition of CDU/CSU+FDP+AFD=44.3%

Another CDU/CSU+FDP+SPD coalition=44.3%

Far left coalition of Greens+Linke=40.4%

Greens+Linke+Pirates=50%

I think that covers all possible coalitions, if you ask me the left would be wise to just all work together in the grand coalition.

AFD is unpredictable sort of ie being right/left wing.. Pirates may specifically want to be in the opposition rather than in a coalition idelogically, and the whole Linke communist ties thing is still a wild card.

If anyone knows of a site where I can make map with MP seat calculations I can do that as well. If anyone wants to do the math on this seats wise feel free..  

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« Reply #41 on: August 28, 2013, 01:32:57 PM »

The size of parliament would be quite unpredictable in this scenario.

AFD is unpredictable sort of ie being right/left wing..
No. No sheet of paper could fit between their and REPs' traditional or current poster style. Or, well, every far right list's of recent German history's except the NPD's, whose campaigning style is very different.
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« Reply #42 on: August 28, 2013, 01:43:30 PM »

Pirates, I guess. Five major parties and they're all basically horrible.
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