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« on: August 22, 2013, 01:03:34 PM »

http://www.51ststate.org/tp50/Default.asp?ID=314893

The end game here seems to be either seceding from Colorado and becoming North Colorado or requesting annexation by Wyoming.
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« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2013, 01:05:04 PM »

They should merge with Wyoming Smiley
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2013, 03:19:53 PM »

Would merging with Wyoming give Wyoming an extra Congressional seat?
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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2013, 03:20:30 PM »

Would merging with Wyoming give Wyoming an extra Congressional seat?

Nope Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2013, 03:33:28 PM »

They should get Colorado Springs involved if they want to have enough population to be taken seriously as a stand-alone state.  Maybe we could have a deal where an East-West splitting of CO coincides with the admission of Puerto Rico as a state?
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« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2013, 04:56:29 PM »

If they want to live in a Republican state there are many GOP sh**tholes neighboring Colorado.
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2013, 05:44:43 PM »

What is quaint is that one of the alternatives to getting a 51st State they are proposing is having the Colorado Senate be elected by having one Senator from each county.  I guess they never heard of Reynolds v. Sims.  Or maybe they come from an alternative timeline in which Everett Dirksen gets his proposed amendment undoing that decision through the Congress.
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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2013, 07:12:09 PM »

Yes, please put some of the most conservative parts of Colorado into Wyoming and turn CO into a solid D state in the process. Smiley
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« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2013, 07:35:59 PM »

What is quaint is that one of the alternatives to getting a 51st State they are proposing is having the Colorado Senate be elected by having one Senator from each county.  I guess they never heard of Reynolds v. Sims.  Or maybe they come from an alternative timeline in which Everett Dirksen gets his proposed amendment undoing that decision through the Congress.

I think that just shows you how serious this effort truly is.
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« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2013, 10:07:00 PM »

What is quaint is that one of the alternatives to getting a 51st State they are proposing is having the Colorado Senate be elected by having one Senator from each county.  I guess they never heard of Reynolds v. Sims.  Or maybe they come from an alternative timeline in which Everett Dirksen gets his proposed amendment undoing that decision through the Congress.

I think that just shows you how serious this effort truly is.

Do any of you think that a county might actually vote to secede from Colorado and be annexed into Wyoming? There are already 8 counties that looks like they'll put it on the ballot, and 4 or 5 where it looks likely.
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« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2013, 10:08:41 PM »

Send in the national guard, round up their leaders, shoot them.
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« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2013, 10:35:26 PM »

Would merging with Wyoming give Wyoming an extra Congressional seat?

Nope Smiley

Then I'm all in favor of letting them join Wyoming. Makes Colorado a safer blue state, doesn't really effect Wyoming (not like Democrats were going to win there anyway), and introduces those whiners (who are doing this over energy policies, right?), to Wyoming's wind power industry.
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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2013, 10:48:20 PM »

What is quaint is that one of the alternatives to getting a 51st State they are proposing is having the Colorado Senate be elected by having one Senator from each county.  I guess they never heard of Reynolds v. Sims.  Or maybe they come from an alternative timeline in which Everett Dirksen gets his proposed amendment undoing that decision through the Congress.

I think that just shows you how serious this effort truly is.

Do any of you think that a county might actually vote to secede from Colorado and be annexed into Wyoming? There are already 8 counties that looks like they'll put it on the ballot, and 4 or 5 where it looks likely.

Even if they do, you'd need to get the Federal, Colorado, and Wyoming governments to agree.  Also, only Weld County out of those eight even borders Wyoming. Unless western Nebraska also wants to join Wyoming, it would make more sense to get attached to Nebraska than Wyoming.
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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2013, 11:04:50 PM »

We should just put these counties Under The Dome
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« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2013, 12:37:16 PM »

Would merging with Wyoming give Wyoming an extra Congressional seat?

Nope Smiley

Then I'm all in favor of letting them join Wyoming. Makes Colorado a safer blue state, doesn't really effect Wyoming (not like Democrats were going to win there anyway), and introduces those whiners (who are doing this over energy policies, right?), to Wyoming's wind power industry.
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« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2013, 09:18:32 PM »
« Edited: August 25, 2013, 03:57:49 PM by IndyTexas »

I won't stand for it. It would completely ruin the rectangular nature of Colorado and Wyoming.

In Texas, we have to have special waffle irons that make waffles shaped like our state. In Wyoming and Colorado, regular waffle irons already suffice. Changing their boundaries would necessitate the design and manufacture of new Wyoming- and Colorado-shaped waffle irons, which would raise costs for many small breakfast establishments and Secret Santa Christmas gift buyers throughout these two states.






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« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2013, 10:03:35 PM »

The new waffle industry will be a stimulus project and a boon to the Wyoming and Colorado economies.
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« Reply #17 on: August 25, 2013, 06:39:28 AM »

I would not support this being a new state, especially as its population isn't even 60% of the smallest state. We don't need any more tiny states to further distort the Senate. It they wanted to join with another state (like Wyoming), I would support their proposal.
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« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2013, 08:00:47 AM »

I would not support this being a new state, especially as its population isn't even 60% of the smallest state. We don't need any more tiny states to further distort the Senate. It they wanted to join with another state (like Wyoming), I would support their proposal.

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« Reply #19 on: August 27, 2013, 12:43:06 AM »

United States secession movements never come to anything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_partition_proposals

If you wanted to really go all out and make everyone happy, you would split the United States into two countries, the cities, and the small towns and fields, resulting in one of the countries being perforated with lots of pockets of the other country. Tongue

Then again, that would completely destroy the waffle iron industry; probably leading to permanent depression and economic ruin.
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