Poll: nearly 80% of GOP *PRIMARY Voters* support Immigration reform

[Blue3]

http://news.yahoo.com/post-gridlock-republicans-210036432.html

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So it seems like they're just a very vocal minority... but will GOP congressmen believe it? Could there actually be hope for them?

[BluegrassBlueVote]

An overwhelming majority of them supported background checks, too, but look what happened to that issue once Obama voiced his opinion on it. Most still do, but the numbers fell after Manchin-Toomey failed.

[All Along The Watchtower]

An overwhelming majority of them supported background checks, too, but look what happened to that issue once Obama voiced his opinion on it. Most still do, but the numbers fell after Manchin-Toomey failed.

Look at what happened to Republican support for the Heritage Foundation's health care plan once the (black) Democratic President supported it.

[Mr. Morden]

And just under 80 percent said it was "very important" to fix the country's immigrant system. The same number said an "imperfect" fix would be preferable to no action at all.

How many of those 80% think "fixing" the immigration system can be done via border enforcement alone?  If the question is as vague as "fixing" then I don't think it's very meaningful.

[Likely Voter]

Mitt Romney was able to win GOP primary voters proposing his "fix" with a giant fence and "self deportation" while attacking Perry and Gingrich for being soft   (Perry for allowing in-state tuition to the kids of immigrants and Gingrich for saying that some grandmothers who have been here 30 years should be able to stay).

Polling generalities is useless. It is like how people can consider themselves 'pro life' but not be in favor of making most abortions illegal.

[© tweed]

And just under 80 percent said it was "very important" to fix the country's immigrant system. The same number said an "imperfect" fix would be preferable to no action at all.

How many of those 80% think "fixing" the immigration system can ben done via border enforcement alone?  If the question is as vague as "fixing" then I don't think it's very meaningful.

yup, who doesn't want 'reform' and 'fixing'?

[Stranger in a strange land]

An overwhelming majority of them supported background checks, too, but look what happened to that issue once Obama voiced his opinion on it. Most still do, but the numbers fell after Manchin-Toomey failed.

Look at what happened to Republican support for the Heritage Foundation's health care plan once the (black) Democratic President supported it.

THIS.

And also this:

And just under 80 percent said it was "very important" to fix the country's immigrant system. The same number said an "imperfect" fix would be preferable to no action at all.

How many of those 80% think "fixing" the immigration system can ben done via border enforcement alone?  If the question is as vague as "fixing" then I don't think it's very meaningful.

[DC Al Fine]

The article referred to Club for Growth as "way right wing" and called the Tea Part "Tea Bag". I miss the good old days when hacks were at least witty.

[GeorgiaSenator]

I would suspect most of the 80% wish to see the reform be to deport the illegal immigrant criminals/future democrat voters

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

NumbersUSA refers to the candidates it finds as most favorable toward their views as "True Reformers" or "True Reform Candidates".

If you listen to the critiques being made by people who aren't just trying to dance there way around the issue one way or another (for or against for just political reasons rather then for the issue itself, or to protect Marco Rubio), but oppose it and oppose it for legitimate reasons like myself will state that such "comprehensive Immigration Reforms" are not reforms because ther perpetuate the policy of cyclical amnesty so as to ensure there is a constant presence of illegals that will eventually need to be given amnesty down the road, thus such broken reforms are just as much a part of the status quo as the 12 or so million that we have right now and the border the way it is now.

Therefore we see ourselves as reformers, and want to fix the broken system while we see reforms like the Senate bill as a continuation of the status quo, hency why I called them "faux reforms".

The reasons the numbers look like this though is becuase no one will make the case of why is a bad idea, convincingly. They make excuses for opposition on minor grounds or offer up alternatives that they would support, or what not, which has the effect muddling the message. They don't actually articulate why it doesn't work, and there is a reason for that especially on the right and it is to protect Rubio. They saw what happened in 2006 and 2007 and if they were to do that again, which is what there instincts tell them to do, they know Rubio will go out the same way Mel Martinez did and they don't want that. We also lost some of our best voices on this issue in the last cycle, when redistricting wiped out Heath Shuler and Brian Bilbray got tossed out by a slim margin in the new CA-52. Steve King comes from the Tom Tancredo/JD Hayworth foot in mouth school and is thus more harmful then anything else.

In 2006 and 2007, some polls had it even, but most said that a plurality of about ten points wanted to give a path to citizenship over enforcement first or enforcement only. However, the immigration bill itself though had 80% opposition by the time of the vote and netted 53 nay votes, sixteen of whom were Democrats.

[hopper]

I think Republican Voters and politicians alike have finally have come to realize we need immigration reform and you can't deport everybody. 76% of Republicans in a Pew Research Poll think its impractical to deport everybody that lines up with 80% of Democrats that think the same thing,

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I think Republican Voters and politicians alike have finally have come to realize we need immigration reform and you can't deport everybody. 76% of Republicans in a Pew Research Poll think its impractical to deport everybody that lines up with 80% of Democrats that think the same thing,

Deporting everybody is just a straw man.