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« on: June 06, 2013, 01:43:26 PM »

With Daley or Madigan chosing to challenge Quinn, IL favors dems even if Rutherford wins GOP nod.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-06-04/news/chi-william-daley-blasts-inaction-on-pension-reform-20130603_1_pension-systems-pension-crisis-madigan-plan
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« Reply #1 on: June 06, 2013, 01:53:09 PM »

Hate to say I told you so, Oldiesfreak, but...
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« Reply #2 on: June 06, 2013, 02:13:31 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2013, 02:31:31 PM »

Hate to say I told you so, Oldiesfreak, but...
This doesn't prove that he's running.  And even if he does run, he's not a shoo-in.  Illinois may be safe D in presidential elections, but as Vosem can attest, it's pretty competitive at the state level.
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« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2013, 02:40:39 PM »

Hate to say I told you so, Oldiesfreak, but...
This doesn't prove that he's running.  And even if he does run, he's not a shoo-in.  Illinois may be safe D in presidential elections, but as Vosem can attest, it's pretty competitive at the state level.

I know he's not a shoo-in for victory and it Leans Democratic with Daley. However, I'm just feeling a little vindicated after you spent the last month thumping your chest thinking Quinn wouldn't have a primary challenge. But from the looks of it the only thing that would cause him to opt out if Lisa Madigan jumps in.
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« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2013, 02:55:09 PM »

Hate to say I told you so, Oldiesfreak, but...
This doesn't prove that he's running.  And even if he does run, he's not a shoo-in.  Illinois may be safe D in presidential elections, but as Vosem can attest, it's pretty competitive at the state level.
He would have to beat Quinn in the primary first, though.
I know he's not a shoo-in for victory and it Leans Democratic with Daley. However, I'm just feeling a little vindicated after you spent the last month thumping your chest thinking Quinn wouldn't have a primary challenge. But from the looks of it the only thing that would cause him to opt out if Lisa Madigan jumps in.
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« Reply #6 on: June 07, 2013, 03:25:32 PM »

I know he's not a shoo-in for victory and it Leans Democratic with Daley. However, I'm just feeling a little vindicated after you spent the last month thumping your chest thinking Quinn wouldn't have a primary challenge. But from the looks of it the only thing that would cause him to opt out if Lisa Madigan jumps in.

Daley, just like Blago, and his bro Rich are fundraising machines and thanks to Resko, Blago is no longer gov. But, his ability to solidify the Latino vote in the Cook suburbs and should be just enough to pull through. But nevertheless, I wouldn't underestimate Rutherford. Lisa Madigan should stay put and let the Irishmen fight it out and run for Senate in 2016.
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2013, 10:01:29 AM »

He's in.
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« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2013, 12:00:37 PM »

just what Illinois doesn't need
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« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2013, 12:08:40 PM »
« Edited: June 11, 2013, 12:11:40 PM by OC »


Quinn vetoed Cullerton's casino proposal which could of helped him politically. Instead Daley has the upper hand now on Madigan and Quinn and has promised a clean casino deal wout strings attached.  He already stated he will serve out his term til 2017 and term limit himself. Should Madigan decline to run she can run for gov or senate in the future which helps state Dems.
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« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2013, 12:51:12 PM »

So Daley would only serve a single term? Guess he figures he can enact his agenda in just 4 years... rather strange though.
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« Reply #11 on: June 11, 2013, 12:51:32 PM »

How toxic is that name in the rest of the state?

Not that the rest of the state is required to win, of course...
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« Reply #12 on: June 11, 2013, 01:45:17 PM »

He's a moderate not raving liberal and change Quinn's dranconion tax deal that raised taxes on poor people. Meanwhile he will slow growth of spending.
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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2013, 02:02:41 AM »
« Edited: June 16, 2013, 04:36:21 AM by Czarcasm »

How toxic is that name in the rest of the state?

As a downstater, even among Democrats the name "Daley" is synonymous with "Chicago," and the word "Chicago" is synonymous with hell itself.

The real trump card now is Lisa's candidacy. I've always been among those who maintained the only reason she's put off her announcement is because she wanted to wait and see whether Bill would throw his hat in the ring; three-way primaries involving an incumbent (even if it's Quinn) and another influential family are always risky. Even still, if she runs I say she wins the primary and goes on to win the general.

Rutherford's shown strongly in early polling, but he's an awkward public speaker and passive campaigner; two circumstances that suggest retaining his frontrunner status in the primary could be a challenge. Bruce Rauner and Kirk Dillard are likely to be the most competitive GOP candidates (for their copious amounts of money and appeal among independents, respectively) against Daley in the general, and I feel either one's got a good shot at beating Quinn if he's the Dem candidate. Kirk Dillard's my personal preference, but he's also the one least likely to win a Republican primary.
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2013, 04:12:29 AM »
« Edited: June 16, 2013, 04:14:45 AM by OC »

The last public policy poll showed daley doing better than Quinn and down one against Rutherford. Daley already will get support from Rahm and fraternal order of police has also showed interest in Daley. I am no fan of the Daley name but Quinn beat Brady with most of cook by itself.  Daley are tough on crime and will do better than Quinn in the collar counties.

By the time daley is nominated which I think he will with Rahms backing, he, just like Quinn who picked a Simon, will pick a running mate, less suspicious to downstate. Madigan has a nepotism problem, but we need a candidate for senate and she can run for either senate or gov in future cause daley has already said he will only serve one term to put a downtown chgo casino to fix school funding and correct pension crisis.
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« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2013, 04:33:55 AM »
« Edited: June 16, 2013, 04:39:04 AM by Czarcasm »

Daley already will get support from Rahm and fraternal order of police has also showed interest in Daley.

Isn't Rahm unpopular in Chicago, though? Granted, I have no source or circumstantial evidence to support claim this besides last week's TIME cover.

I am no fan of the Daley name but Quinn beat Brady with most of cook by itself.

2010 really ought to have been a Republican pickup. Really, with the Blago politics still in fresh memory and job numbers going the way they were, even Democrats were saying a broomstick could've beaten Quinn in the general. But Bill Brady was a serious contender for being the most ineffectual campaigners in state history: the guy no-showed his own events and didn't coordinate with any external party representatives. To boot, his politics alienated Collar Counties and Metro East voters, and those are the regions that decide our statewide elections. The only reason he even won the '10 primary was because of the nightmare of a six-way competitive race, and even then he won by less than 200 votes.

The 2014 Democratic candidate will have to face a more competitive opponent than Bill Brady, and will have an extra four years of Quinn governance to rationalize.

Madigan has a nepotism problem, but we need a candidate for senate and she can run for either senate

This is what I think she'll do to avoid a three-way primary with a Daley and an incumbent. The federal political scene also gives her the opportunity to campaign on her federal record (i.e. testifying before U.S. Supreme Court, etc.) and avoid the nepotism discussion as much as possible. There's good luck in running statewide in a Presidential year, but she'd also be running against Mark Kirk, whom is really the only Illinois Republican with the chance to give a Madigan an uphill battle. Either way, her emergence will be intriguing to watch.
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« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2013, 05:07:22 AM »
« Edited: June 16, 2013, 05:10:50 AM by OC »

One criticism of the daleys is being tough on crime means racially profiling. His bro Rich supported Art Turner as Lt governor last time around. Burris did very well and won statewide office back in 1990s. If he can put an Obama coalition to win statewide office by putting Art Turner or latino, on ticket, he will be fine.
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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2013, 02:03:06 AM »

Ugh, the Daley family needs to go away.
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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2013, 03:48:37 PM »
« Edited: June 18, 2013, 03:53:52 PM by OC »

I rather have a Daley than a GOP takeover and Rutherford will win since the three way primary will surely result in Quinn being renominated. Rutherford was the chairman of the r Romney campaign in Illinois.

That's why Madigan is coy about running, consulting with state party chairman and stepfather Mike. Really the gay right supporters are indifferent to daley. We will have to see what the unions want.
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« Reply #19 on: June 18, 2013, 04:33:12 PM »

At first I thought this said Delay, as in Tom Delay, not Daley.  Then, I remembered Delay is from Texas and likely in prison somewhere.
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