Democrats that voted no on the deal

[Wyoming Conservative]

3 democrats in the senate Tom Harkin,Michael Bennet, and Thomas Carpter voted against the deal. Why did they vote against it and democrats do you think this was the right vote?.

[Vazdul (Formerly Chairman of the Communist Party of Ontario)]

I don't know why they voted against it, but here are the Democrats in the House who voted against the deal:

Xavier Becerra (CA)
Rosa DeLauro (CT)
John Barrow (GA)
Peter Visclosky (IN)
Collin Peterson (MN)
Mike McIntyre (NC)
Brad Miller (NC)
Earl Blumenauer (OR)
Peter DeFazio (OR)
Kurt Schrader (OR)
Jim Cooper (TN)
Jim Matheson (UT)
Bobby Scott (VA)
Jim Moran (VA)
Jim McDermott (WA)
Adam Smith (WA)

[Antonio the Sixth]

Yeah, it's a weird bunch. If you had told me 3 Democrats opposed the bill, I would have bet on people like Sanders, Brown or Franken. Interestingly enough, the actual "nay" voters are pretty mainstream in the Dem Senate caucus, neither significantly to its left nor to its right.

[Wyoming Conservative]

Yeah, it's a weird bunch. If you had told me 3 Democrats opposed the bill, I would have bet on people like Sanders, Brown or Franken. Interestingly enough, the actual "nay" voters are pretty mainstream in the Dem Senate caucus, neither significantly to its left nor to its right.

I agree but Harken is far to the left.

[Franzl]

Yeah, it's a weird bunch. If you had told me 3 Democrats opposed the bill, I would have bet on people like Sanders, Brown or Franken. Interestingly enough, the actual "nay" voters are pretty mainstream in the Dem Senate caucus, neither significantly to its left nor to its right.

I agree but Harken is far to the left.

Yeah, he's practically a communist.

[Wyoming Conservative]

Yeah, it's a weird bunch. If you had told me 3 Democrats opposed the bill, I would have bet on people like Sanders, Brown or Franken. Interestingly enough, the actual "nay" voters are pretty mainstream in the Dem Senate caucus, neither significantly to its left nor to its right.

I agree but Harken is far to the left.

Yeah, he's practically a communist.

Obviously hes far-left on the democratic senate. One of 4 democrats to vote for impeaching Bush.

[tmthforu94]

Yeah, it's a weird bunch. If you had told me 3 Democrats opposed the bill, I would have bet on people like Sanders, Brown or Franken. Interestingly enough, the actual "nay" voters are pretty mainstream in the Dem Senate caucus, neither significantly to its left nor to its right.

I agree but Harken is far to the left.

Yeah, he's practically a communist.

No need to be a smartass, especially when he's right in the fact that Harkin is generally one of the most liberal members of the Senate.

[Franzl]

Yeah, it's a weird bunch. If you had told me 3 Democrats opposed the bill, I would have bet on people like Sanders, Brown or Franken. Interestingly enough, the actual "nay" voters are pretty mainstream in the Dem Senate caucus, neither significantly to its left nor to its right.

I agree but Harken is far to the left.

Yeah, he's practically a communist.

No need to be a smartass, especially when he's right in the fact that Harkin is generally one of the most liberal members of the Senate.

Generally one of the more liberal members of the Senate = far left?

[Vosem]

Yeah, it's a weird bunch. If you had told me 3 Democrats opposed the bill, I would have bet on people like Sanders, Brown or Franken. Interestingly enough, the actual "nay" voters are pretty mainstream in the Dem Senate caucus, neither significantly to its left nor to its right.

I agree but Harken is far to the left.

Yeah, he's practically a communist.

No need to be a smartass, especially when he's right in the fact that Harkin is generally one of the most liberal members of the Senate.

Generally one of the more liberal members of the Senate = far left?

By the standards of the U.S. Senate, yes. Not by the standards of European politics, but it doesn't make much sense to apply those to Tom Harkin.

[morgieb]

Harkin - from the left, however you'd expect that vote to be someone else.
Bennet - head of the DSCC, perhaps wanted to fire the base up.
Carper - no idea.

[morgieb]

I don't know why they voted against it, but here are the Democrats in the House who voted against the deal:

Xavier Becerra (CA) - left
Rosa DeLauro (CT) - left
John Barrow (GA) - right
Peter Visclosky (IN)
Collin Peterson (MN) - right
Mike McIntyre (NC) - right
Brad Miller (NC) - left
Earl Blumenauer (OR) - left
Peter DeFazio (OR) - left, though has been idiosyncratic.
Kurt Schrader (OR) - right
Jim Cooper (TN) - right
Jim Matheson (UT) - right
Bobby Scott (VA) - left?
Jim Moran (VA)
Jim McDermott (WA) - left
Adam Smith (WA)

Those are my guesses, but the others are more confusing.

[Franzl]

Yeah, it's a weird bunch. If you had told me 3 Democrats opposed the bill, I would have bet on people like Sanders, Brown or Franken. Interestingly enough, the actual "nay" voters are pretty mainstream in the Dem Senate caucus, neither significantly to its left nor to its right.

I agree but Harken is far to the left.

Yeah, he's practically a communist.

No need to be a smartass, especially when he's right in the fact that Harkin is generally one of the most liberal members of the Senate.

Generally one of the more liberal members of the Senate = far left?

By the standards of the U.S. Senate, yes. Not by the standards of European politics, but it doesn't make much sense to apply those to Tom Harkin.

If Harkin is "far-left", then the term has no meaning.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Harkin - from the left, however you'd expect that vote to be someone else.
Bennet - head of the DSCC, perhaps wanted to fire the base up.
Carper - no idea.

Carper who?

Hm, wait, I believe I heard somewhere about a Senator named Carper but who the hell is he doing, no clue.

[Wyoming Conservative]

Yeah, it's a weird bunch. If you had told me 3 Democrats opposed the bill, I would have bet on people like Sanders, Brown or Franken. Interestingly enough, the actual "nay" voters are pretty mainstream in the Dem Senate caucus, neither significantly to its left nor to its right.

I agree but Harken is far to the left.

Yeah, he's practically a communist.

No need to be a smartass, especially when he's right in the fact that Harkin is generally one of the most liberal members of the Senate.

Generally one of the more liberal members of the Senate = far left?

By the standards of the U.S. Senate, yes. Not by the standards of European politics, but it doesn't make much sense to apply those to Tom Harkin.

If Harkin is "far-left", then the term has no meaning.

This has nothing to do with european politics. In terms of the us senate Harkin is Far-Left. One of four senators to vote to impeach Bush.

[Franzl]

Yeah, it's a weird bunch. If you had told me 3 Democrats opposed the bill, I would have bet on people like Sanders, Brown or Franken. Interestingly enough, the actual "nay" voters are pretty mainstream in the Dem Senate caucus, neither significantly to its left nor to its right.

I agree but Harken is far to the left.

Yeah, he's practically a communist.

No need to be a smartass, especially when he's right in the fact that Harkin is generally one of the most liberal members of the Senate.

Generally one of the more liberal members of the Senate = far left?

By the standards of the U.S. Senate, yes. Not by the standards of European politics, but it doesn't make much sense to apply those to Tom Harkin.

If Harkin is "far-left", then the term has no meaning.

This has nothing to do with european politics. In terms of the us senate Harkin is Far-Left. One of four senators to vote to impeach Bush.

Same comment applies.

[Donerail]

Harkin - from the left, however you'd expect that vote to be someone else.
Bennet - head of the DSCC, perhaps wanted to fire the base up.
Carper - no idea.

Carper who?

Hm, wait, I believe I heard somewhere about a Senator named Carper but who the hell is he doing, no clue.

There's a bit of irony of you saying that while sporting a D-DE avatar.

[Blackacre]

I wouldn't have expected Franken to vote against the deal (and he didn't.) Franken is pretty responsible. Shame on those three Dems that voted against it, though

[Antonio the Sixth]

Shame on those three Dems that voted against it, though

Yeah, how dare they refuse to shoot themselves in both feet with a smile?

[This user has not been convicted of 34 felonies]

I think I read that Carper opposed it as a protest vote because he wanted higher tax increases on the wealthy and less cuts to certain programs. Don't quote me on that, though.

Kudos to him for standing up what he believes in, it's why he's one of few Democrats that I actually like. It's mostly Delaware Democrats, actually. Coons, Carper, Markell, etc.

[angus]

http://www.carper.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/pressreleases?ID=15746924-35cf-4190-8b49-97dbece2cb0f

[Blackacre]

Shame on those three Dems that voted against it, though

Yeah, how dare they refuse to shoot themselves in both feet with a smile?

It was either the deal or crashing the economy...

[Antonio the Sixth]

Shame on those three Dems that voted against it, though

Yeah, how dare they refuse to shoot themselves in both feet with a smile?

It was either the deal or crashing the economy...

Crashing the economy would have been the GOP's fault. We can't keep bowing down every time they hold the economy hostage of their dogmatic views.

And anyways, the collapse wasn't even really averted, merely reported by 2 months.