Polls: Most gun owners, NRA members favor some arms restrictions

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Interesting read.  I doubt any gun restrictions will pass in the next session, but I'm skeptical that any meaningful push for them will carry any negative impact on the Democrats running in 2014 or 2016, especially since many of the Democrats that would normally be against the restrictions have already been replaced by Republicans in the last two cycles.

[Marokai Backbeat]

The next session? Considering the state of the House districts, we won't have any new gun laws passed for at least the next decade.

It doesn't surprise me at all that plenty of Americans favor some sort of gun control, to varying degrees, but the problem is that this is one of the issues that is ignored because it's not popular (or as popular) in specific states that control the national dialogue.

[fezzyfestoon]

Who cares? If Republicans can still rile up enough lunatics to drown out conversation, people will continue to scream about freedom in the face of the rest of the public until they back down. It happens every time anyone tries to talk about guns.

[Paul Kemp]

Who cares? If Republicans can still rile up enough lunatics to drown out conversation, people will continue to scream about freedom in the face of the rest of the public until they back down. It happens every time anyone tries to talk about guns.

Yup.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I'm in favor of background checks, the AWB, and closing any gun show loopholes.......

[Dave from Michigan]

I support most of these ideas, but would they have prevented this mass shooting?

[fezzyfestoon]

I support most of these ideas, but would they have prevented this mass shooting?

It would have made it harder, isn't that enough at this point?

[Landslide Lyndon]

I support most of these ideas, but would they have prevented this mass shooting?

Requiring from people who want to purchase a car to have a driver's license hasn't stopped traffic accidents, so why bother?

[Donerail]

• 76 percent support prohibiting people on terror watch lists from purchasing guns.
  

I'm beginning to worry about the 24%. There are at least 2% of Americans who believe people who have committed assault shouldn't get concealed-carry permits but believe people on terror watch lists should be able to buy guns?

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

• 76 percent support prohibiting people on terror watch lists from purchasing guns.
  

I'm beginning to worry about the 24%. There are at least 2% of Americans who believe people who have committed assault shouldn't get concealed-carry permits but believe people on terror watch lists should be able to buy guns?

Sure.  You don't have to have committed a crime to be on a terror watch list.

[Meeker]

Yeah, it's still not entirely clear how people end up on the terror watch list. It also seems to be somewhat error prone (Nelson Mandela was on the list for a while, for example). And there are issues with false positives/people being confused for someone on the list. It sounds like a good proposal in theory but I think there are a lot of details to work out.

[King]

Who cares? If Republicans can still rile up enough lunatics to drown out conversation, people will continue to scream about freedom in the face of the rest of the public until they back down. It happens every time anyone tries to talk about guns.

Much like the BP oil spill killed Drill Baby Drill, there's a limit to how much tragedy the American people can take before they stop believing bad rhetoric.  I expect gun control polls to show major movement in the coming weeks.

[fezzyfestoon]

Who cares? If Republicans can still rile up enough lunatics to drown out conversation, people will continue to scream about freedom in the face of the rest of the public until they back down. It happens every time anyone tries to talk about guns.

Much like the BP oil spill killed Drill Baby Drill, there's a limit to how much tragedy the American people can take before they stop believing bad rhetoric.  I expect gun control polls to show major movement in the coming weeks.

So you think this is the final straw? I could see that. I hope to see that.

[memphis]

Who cares? If Republicans can still rile up enough lunatics to drown out conversation, people will continue to scream about freedom in the face of the rest of the public until they back down. It happens every time anyone tries to talk about guns.

Much like the BP oil spill killed Drill Baby Drill, there's a limit to how much tragedy the American people can take before they stop believing bad rhetoric.  I expect gun control polls to show major movement in the coming weeks.

The oil spill did not kill America's desire to drill for oil. What made you think that?

[useful idiot]

I support most of these ideas, but would they have prevented this mass shooting?

It would have made it harder, isn't that enough at this point?

It wouldn't have, because all of those things are already in effect in almost every state (maybe every state), with the possible exception of the terror watch-list thing.

All of those things are in effect in Virginia, which has some of the loosest gun laws in the country.

[King]

Who cares? If Republicans can still rile up enough lunatics to drown out conversation, people will continue to scream about freedom in the face of the rest of the public until they back down. It happens every time anyone tries to talk about guns.

Much like the BP oil spill killed Drill Baby Drill, there's a limit to how much tragedy the American people can take before they stop believing bad rhetoric.  I expect gun control polls to show major movement in the coming weeks.

The oil spill did not kill America's desire to drill for oil. What made you think that?

It didn't kill core support, but it killed the issue.  No one talks about it anymore.

[memphis]

Who cares? If Republicans can still rile up enough lunatics to drown out conversation, people will continue to scream about freedom in the face of the rest of the public until they back down. It happens every time anyone tries to talk about guns.

Much like the BP oil spill killed Drill Baby Drill, there's a limit to how much tragedy the American people can take before they stop believing bad rhetoric.  I expect gun control polls to show major movement in the coming weeks.

The oil spill did not kill America's desire to drill for oil. What made you think that?

It didn't kill core support, but it killed the issue.  No one talks about it anymore.

First it was about "believing bad rhetoric." Now you've moved the goal posts to "talking about it." Ok.
http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/03/obama-oil-drilling-up-on-my-watch/1

[King]

Oil drilling in general /= the issue that was building in 2008, which was Sarah Palin demanding we drill ANWR and deep sea despite safety concerns.  That's pretty much fallen off the political map.

[Joe Republic]

Oil drilling in general /= the issue that was building in 2008, which was Sarah Palin demanding we drill ANWR and deep sea despite safety concerns.  That's pretty much fallen off the political map.

Yes, but so has Sarah Palin.

[memphis]

Oil drilling in general /= the issue that was building in 2008, which was Sarah Palin demanding we drill ANWR and deep sea despite safety concerns.  That's pretty much fallen off the political map.

Moving the goalposts again? Ok. The facts are still not on your side. Drilling in ANWR is more popular than it was before the Deepwater spill.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Oil drilling in general /= the issue that was building in 2008, which was Sarah Palin demanding we drill ANWR and deep sea despite safety concerns.  That's pretty much fallen off the political map.

Moving the goalposts again? Ok. The facts are still not on your side. Drilling in ANWR is more popular than it was before the Deepwater spill.

Did drilling in ANWR became more popular and deepwater drilling become less popular? That's what I would expect.

[King]

Oil drilling in general /= the issue that was building in 2008, which was Sarah Palin demanding we drill ANWR and deep sea despite safety concerns.  That's pretty much fallen off the political map.

Moving the goalposts again? Ok. The facts are still not on your side. Drilling in ANWR is more popular than it was before the Deepwater spill.

No.  I moved them back to where they were.  Risky oil drilling has fallen off the political map (killed Drill Baby Drill), regardless of public polling on this issue, and is no longer talked about seriously by anybody.

I expect to see poll movement on guns because its a more politically engaged issue and the left is charging at it, but I never said anything about public polls in relation to oil drilling.  What I said is that it killed the movement for doing it.

[memphis]

Oil drilling in general /= the issue that was building in 2008, which was Sarah Palin demanding we drill ANWR and deep sea despite safety concerns.  That's pretty much fallen off the political map.

Moving the goalposts again? Ok. The facts are still not on your side. Drilling in ANWR is more popular than it was before the Deepwater spill.

No.  I moved them back to where they were.  Risky oil drilling has fallen off the political map (killed Drill Baby Drill), regardless of public polling on this issue, and is no longer talked about seriously by anybody.

I expect to see poll movement on guns because its a more politically engaged issue and the left is charging at it, but I never said anything about public polls in relation to oil drilling.  What I said is that it killed the movement for doing it.

You're quickly assuming Bushie level imperviousness to facts. The public still supports drilling. The President still supports drilling. The Republicans continue to support drilling and continue to attack the President for being insufficiently willing to support drilling. It's like the Deepwater spill never happened. If anything, people are more likely to demand drilling because we've all been paying $3+ gas prices for several years now.

[King]

Maybe so, maybe so.  I remember public opinion polling showed support for public option healthcare, though, too, and that nosedived once the debate started.  You can't really trust public opinion on issues that aren't current.  I don't think support would remain that high if we actually opened up talk on deep sea drilling tomorrow.