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Filuwaúrdjan
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« on: February 09, 2005, 04:25:54 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2005, 04:29:43 PM »

Ohio

Cinncinnati Metro

Cinncinnati's large Black and working class populations would make the city a natural Labour stronghold, although there would be a tradition of "Working Class Toryism" among the city's German Catholics.
The rest of Hamilton county (actually the majority of the county's population) is mostly affluent white flight suburbia, and would be solidly Tory.
The outer suburbs (Butler, Warren and Clermont Counties) are affluent, lily white and filled with conservative commuters (most would probably be Daily Mail readers) and would be Tory strongholds.

Dayton-Springfield Metro

Dayton is a working class city with a large black population and would vote strongly Labour, as would the (mostly blue collar) northen suburbs in Montgomery county, while the southern suburbs (eg. Kettering) would be strongly Tory.
Most of the suburbs not in Montgomery county would go Tory, although there would be pockets of Labour support in the odd blue collar enclave.
A similer pattern would apply to Springfield: the city proper and the more blue collar suburbs would vote Labour, while the rest of the suburbs would vote Tory.

The Cornbelt

The Cornbelt stretches across Ohio from the Indiana border as far as Industrial Eastern Ohio, and would be predictably barren territory for Labour (they'd do well in Marion county. Thats about it).
Historically it would have been a Tory stronghold, and most of it still would be, but the LibDems would slowly be making inroads across the area, especially in the area north of Marion.

Columbus Metro

Columbus and it's inner burbs would be mostly Labour voting (heavily black East Columbus would be solidly Labour, more middle class and mostly white West Columbus would have more LibDems and Tories).
The outer burbs would be mostly Tory (the more exurban, the more Tory) though socially liberal ones would lean LibDem and the odd blue collar enclave would lean Labour.

South Central Ohio

Another agricultural area, and historically poorer than the Cornbelt proper, the area has shrunk as the Cinncinnati and Columbus exurbs have expanded. The few counties that can be classed in the area would probably swing between the Tories and the LibDems.

Ohio Valley/SE Ohio

The northern stretch of the Ohio Valley (Steubenville etc) is heavily industrial with a long history of coal mining and steel production and corresponding union traditions, not suprisingly the area would be a Labour stronghold.
Further south the coalfield runs out and the valley becomes more agricultural (though still very poor), it's difficult to work out how that area would vote, I'd guess for personalities.
The coalfields of the Hocking valley would be another Labour stronghold with the presence of Ohio U. having a small effect on local politics (ie: a few Green councillers) but not a lot else.
At about the point the Ohio swings westwards, coal mining (historically at least) becomes more intense (as do depressing economic indicators) and Labour would dominate.

Toledo Metro/Sandusky

Toledo, a blue collar city with large black and white ethnic populations, would vote solidly Labour, as would it's more working class suburbs.
Sandusky would also be dominated by Labour, although the area between it and Toledo would swing between Labour and Tories.

Cleveland & Inner Suburbs

East Side Cleveland (poverty stricken and heavily black) would be a classic inner city Labour stronghold (with the usual low turnouts), while heavily white ethnic West Side Cleveland would also vote monolithically Labour (although with higher turnouts).
The eastern suburbs tend to be socially liberal and fairly affluent and would vote LibDem at local level and (aided by a large Jewish population) lean Labourish in national elections.
The Southern and North Eastern suburbs are mostly filled with blue collar white ethnics and would also be Labour strongholds, although towards the fringes of Cuyahoga county there'd be more Tories.

Cleveland Outer Suburbs

Lorain county is filled with the same sort of blue collar ethnic voters as West Side Cleveland and would have similer voting patterns, in contrast to neighbouring Medina county which would be traditionally Tory and possibly trending towards the LibDems.
On the other side of Cleveland, affluent Geagua county would be a Tory stronghold, Lake county would be a traditional swing area (albeit with a noticable Labour lean) while Ashtabula county would be split between the more populous industrial north (a solidly Labour area) and the agricultural Tory leaning south.

Akron/Canton

Both Akron and Canton are working class cities with strong union traditions and would be strongly Labour, as would their more blue collar suburbs.
The area in between the two cities is mostly agricultural (though with a few affluent suburbs) and would lean towards the Tories.

Mahoning Valley

A heavily working class area with very strong Union traditions and a long history of steel production turning to post-industrial despair, the Mahoning Valley (Youngstown, Warren etc) would probably be Labour's strongest area in Ohio and one of it's strongest Nationally.
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« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2005, 04:33:21 PM »

Pennsylvania please Smiley
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« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2005, 04:35:51 PM »

Rhode Island

Providence County

Providence and it's inner suburbs, along with Pawtucket and Woonsocket would all vote strongly Labour, while the mixed inner suburbs (like Cranston) would lean towards Labour but might have a fair sized LibDem presense at local level, while the more affluent outer suburbs (like Scituate) would swing between the LibDems and the Tories.

Kent County

Kent contains most of Providence's outer suburbs; while the large Irish Catholic community in Warwick would make it a Labour lock, although the LibDems and Tories would find strong support in the very affluent Greenwich area.

Washington County

Washington is a patchwork of small industrial towns and far flung suburbs (a pattern that typifies much of Southern New England) and the county has a large Irish Catholic population.
Washington would normally vote Labour, but not by huge margins.

Bristol County

Bristol contains just three townships (Bristol, Barrington and Warren) and while Bristol and Warren would lean towards Labour (although the LibDems might be strong locally), the wealthy (yet socially liberal) township of Barrington would be a LibDem stronghold.

Newport County

Newport itself would lean towards Labour (the run down north of the town being strongly Labour, the rich south being strongly Tory), Tiverton (a suburb of New Bedford-Fall River, MA) would swing between Labour and the LibDems, while the township of Little Compton would swing between the LibDems and the Tories.
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« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2005, 04:36:52 PM »


Most of that should be up tomorrow
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« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2005, 04:42:17 PM »


great, nice work so far
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2005, 01:17:00 PM »
« Edited: February 10, 2005, 02:52:01 PM by Senator Al »

Pennsylvania

Philadelphia

Most of Philadelphia is dominated by either (mostly Catholic) ethnic working class voters (North East, South etc) or Blacks (North, West etc). Both groups would vote Labour by predictibly large margins in national elections, although in local elections, a lot of independent councillers would get elected (and when racial relations get bad, a few BNP councillers would probably get elected... although as in the U.K, they wouldn't last long)
The small enclaves of affluent whites would usually vote LibDem at local level as a reaction against the two larger groups.
The Tories would be as good as dead in Philly (it's unlikely that they'd have a single counciller), although they would have done well in some of the white areas in the early '80's.

Philadelphia Suburbs

Labour would do best in older working class suburbs in Delaware county (Norwood, Upper Darby etc), Chester (the mostly black city in Delaware county, not Chester county) and the more blue collar parts of Lower Bucks. Pretty much the only part of Montgomery where they'd do well is Pottstown.
The LibDems would dominate the parts of Montgomery nearest to Philly and do well in the more socially liberal parts of the other suburban Philly counties.
The Tories would be very strong in Upper Bucks (probably one of their strongest areas in the state) most of Chester county, and the parts of Delaware and Montgomery furthest from Philly proper.
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2005, 02:35:29 PM »

Could you do Montana and Georgia?
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2005, 02:53:27 PM »


Montana will be the first Western state I'll do
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2005, 10:28:14 PM »

Al,

Would the LibDems generally do well in libertarian-liberal inner suburbs that have swung Democratic the past 15 years?
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2005, 10:44:21 PM »

YES.
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