Is Susana Martinez getting too much hype on this forum?

[BM]

Yeah, Republicans have embraced minorities that agree with them. You could argue that it makes racists within the party feel better about themselves, but it's not impossible for minorities to be accepted by conservatives so I won't try to argue that.

I also disagree that putting up an Hispanic candidate won't help at all. Yes it's blatant tokenism, but speaking Spanish fluently alone can help endear a candidate to many in the Hispanic community. It's all about being able to relate to the culture. Obviously Rubio or Martinez would be better at it than an awkward old white man, so even if it's only a slight bump in support, it's still a bump.

[Cobbler]

I think Rubio does for sure. Rubio hasn't really done all that much in the Senate, and people were clamoring for him to run for president basically before he even got into the senate. I see no reason to nominate him other than the fact that he's a charismatic hispanic, which sounds like tokenism to me.

It's kind of a similar thing with Martinez for me. I know very little about how her term as governor has gone so far, but I think people keep name dropping her for the wrong reasons. If she's a successful governor in a couple of years, then I'd be able to get behind her, but I don't support candidates purely because they are of a certain demographic; I want candidates that have a record of success. Maybe she has been a good governor, and like I said, I know very little about her, but if the argument is that we should nominate her just because she's a hispanic woman, then I have a problem with that mentality.

[Frodo]

I'd feel meh about nominating Susana Martinez, but I would be open to her nomination depending on her running mate. She seems a tad populist for my tastes.

Would a Marco Rubio/Susana Martinez ticket (in that order) be more palatable to you?  

I'm a bit against Marco Rubio, mainly because, like Obama for the right, he's all rhetoric and no results. I would be for a Sandoval/Martinez ticket possibly.

Why Brian Sandoval, in particular?  And bear in mind, if the next Congress not only takes up but also passes immigration reform (the first is likely, the second increasingly so), Sen. Marco Rubio will be at the center of it.

Also, to add to what I said earlier, Florida is a more important state electorally than either New Mexico or Nevada.  It will be nice for Republicans to have that state securely in their pocket so they don't have to spend so much in resources for it, and they can make a play for Colorado, New Mexico (with Susana running alongside Marco), Nevada, and perhaps even California -forcing Democrats to spend money in that state.  

All this can come to pass, but only if immigration reform is passed and signed into law.  And inevitably that means Sen. Marco Rubio will be in prime position to win the nomination.  Particularly over either Gov. Susana Martinez or Gov. Brian Sandoval.  

[Maxwell]

I'd feel meh about nominating Susana Martinez, but I would be open to her nomination depending on her running mate. She seems a tad populist for my tastes.

Would a Marco Rubio/Susana Martinez ticket (in that order) be more palatable to you?  

I'm a bit against Marco Rubio, mainly because, like Obama for the right, he's all rhetoric and no results. I would be for a Sandoval/Martinez ticket possibly.

Why Brian Sandoval, in particular?  And bear in mind, if the next Congress not only takes up but also passes immigration reform (the first is likely, the second increasingly so), Sen. Marco Rubio will be at the center of it.

Also, to add to what I said earlier, Florida is a more important state electorally than either New Mexico or Nevada.  It will be nice for Republicans to have that state securely in their pocket so they don't have to spend so much in resources for it, and they can make a play for Colorado, New Mexico (with Susana running alongside Marco), Nevada, and perhaps even California -forcing Democrats to spend money in that state.  

All this can come to pass, but only if immigration reform is passed and signed into law.  And inevitably that means Sen. Marco Rubio will be in prime position to win the nomination.  Particularly over either Gov. Susana Martinez or Gov. Brian Sandoval.  

If I'm being honest, its just because Sandoval is closer to my personal views. That and he is one of the most popular governors in the country, with a 52/28 Approval ratio. I know he's a dark horse in the field of people like Rubio, Christie, Ryan, Martinez, Bush, and ect., but I feel like he represents a more moderate branch of the Republican Party that might be looked into considering the results of this past election. Plus, he seems like a genuine moderate, rather than a clown moderate like Romney or McCain.

[Blue3]

Sandoval is pro-choice, and that will remain a giant hurdle in the '16 GOP primaries.

[Maxwell]

Sandoval is pro-choice, and that will remain a giant hurdle in the '16 GOP primaries.

Unfortunately it is a hurdle, but I absolutely want that in a future Republican candidate.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

For the same reason that Bobby Jindal won't be the nominee, this GOP electorate won't choose a minority.

They already had their best chance:

[Skill and Chance]

I'd feel meh about nominating Susana Martinez, but I would be open to her nomination depending on her running mate. She seems a tad populist for my tastes.

Would a Marco Rubio/Susana Martinez ticket (in that order) be more palatable to you?  

I'm a bit against Marco Rubio, mainly because, like Obama for the right, he's all rhetoric and no results. I would be for a Sandoval/Martinez ticket possibly.

Why Brian Sandoval, in particular?  And bear in mind, if the next Congress not only takes up but also passes immigration reform (the first is likely, the second increasingly so), Sen. Marco Rubio will be at the center of it.

Also, to add to what I said earlier, Florida is a more important state electorally than either New Mexico or Nevada.  It will be nice for Republicans to have that state securely in their pocket so they don't have to spend so much in resources for it, and they can make a play for Colorado, New Mexico (with Susana running alongside Marco), Nevada, and perhaps even California -forcing Democrats to spend money in that state.  

All this can come to pass, but only if immigration reform is passed and signed into law.  And inevitably that means Sen. Marco Rubio will be in prime position to win the nomination.  Particularly over either Gov. Susana Martinez or Gov. Brian Sandoval.  

The thing with Florida is that Republicans simply can't win without it in any credible map for the foreseeable future.  Putting Florida away is a prerequisite, not a perk (unless you have someone who can credibly flip PA).  Ohio is also a prerequisite. for a credible Republican win.

From there you choose between the Southwestern or Midwestern path.  If you're a Republican, you have to be concerned that the Democratic floor is now above 50% in NH and VA, because NH-02 and Fairfax/Henrico/Prince William barely swung an inch for a businessman in a bad economy.  I'm not convinced Rubio will help outside of FL, so I would turn to Martinez/Sandoval or one of the Midwestern governors in 2016.   

[Mister Mets]

Demographically, she is very appealing.

She's the only Latina elected to statewide office. And she seems to be doing a competent job as a center-right Governor.

She does have a few problems. There will be some questions about whether a small-state Governor is experienced enough to be President, especially since she lacks the experience Richardson (former Congressman, cabinet member and UN Ambassador) had in 2008. And I don't know how well a woman who made the decision not to have children will do in a Republican primary.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/05/13/susana-martinez-what-new-mexico-s-governor-can-teach-the-gop.html

[California8429]

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DMR agrees with the hype

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Personally, I like Martinez, I doubt there's a lot we agree on, but that's by the by.

This is kind of reflecting the problem that a lot of the GOP missed in this election. If you don't have the policies to attract the voters, whoever you throw up there won't matter.

You want to attract women? stop going after reproductive rights, you want to attract Latinos? stop talking about the Arizona law as a 'model' and self-deportation...

This really isn't hard guys...