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« on: November 07, 2012, 01:14:32 AM »

Have a fun celebration Democrats ! Smiley Looking forward to what Obama will get accomplished these next four years lol. Winning.The.Future. Republicans should not be sad that we "Lost" 2014 and Marco rubio in 2016 will More than Make up for this.
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« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2012, 03:09:36 AM »

This is the optimistic interpretation of the result, yes.

But at the same time its 4 more years of 0's foreign policy, four more years of court appointments, 4 more years of budget-busting deficits and 4 years for the public to get used to Obamacare.

I can't really swallow the idea of this being an election wisely thrown.
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« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2012, 03:15:06 AM »

The optimistic interpretation of the result is a gridlock and hopes that our nation falls to ruin?

Terrific.
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« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2012, 03:18:53 AM »

The optimistic interpretation of the result is a gridlock and hopes that our nation falls to ruin?

Terrific.
The nation is already a ruin. It is merely a question of rebuilding it, or not.
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« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2012, 03:24:35 AM »

The optimistic interpretation of the result is a gridlock and hopes that our nation falls to ruin?

Terrific.
The nation is already a ruin. It is merely a question of rebuilding it, or not.

And considering the president has been re-elected - will the GOP be prepared to work with him - I mean apart from demanding him do what they want - then sit on their hands and refuse to pass anything? The ball is as much in the GOP's court as it is the president's.
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« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2012, 03:27:01 AM »

The optimistic interpretation of the result is a gridlock and hopes that our nation falls to ruin?

Terrific.
The nation is already a ruin. It is merely a question of rebuilding it, or not.

And considering the president has been re-elected - will the GOP be prepared to work with him - I mean apart from demanding him do what they want - then sit on their hands and refuse to pass anything? The ball is as much in the GOP's court as it is the president's.
But what if we believe his proposals are not "rebuilding" the ruin, but rather salting the earth?
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« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2012, 05:02:55 AM »

The optimistic interpretation of the result is a gridlock and hopes that our nation falls to ruin?

Terrific.
The nation is already a ruin. It is merely a question of rebuilding it, or not.

And considering the president has been re-elected - will the GOP be prepared to work with him - I mean apart from demanding him do what they want - then sit on their hands and refuse to pass anything? The ball is as much in the GOP's court as it is the president's.
But what if we believe his proposals are not "rebuilding" the ruin, but rather salting the earth?

Didn't you used to be a leftist from Australia?
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« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2012, 06:02:54 AM »

The optimistic interpretation of the result is a gridlock and hopes that our nation falls to ruin?

Terrific.
The nation is already a ruin. It is merely a question of rebuilding it, or not.

And considering the president has been re-elected - will the GOP be prepared to work with him - I mean apart from demanding him do what they want - then sit on their hands and refuse to pass anything? The ball is as much in the GOP's court as it is the president's.
But what if we believe his proposals are not "rebuilding" the ruin, but rather salting the earth?

Didn't you used to be a leftist from Australia?
Used to be leftist, I was a naive atheistic university student. Then I got woken up by the real world, employment and taxes, as well as seeing the light and the truth of our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ.

As to Australia, I was born in America but my parents immigrated to Aus when I was in my teens. I don't much like it here and plan to return to America, but it seems unwise to do so whilst the economy is still doing so terribly in America and wonderfully in Australia. If/when the economy picks up in America I'll be heading back.
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« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2012, 06:20:06 AM »

What we have to realize now is that the Republican Party is going into crisis mode. They will immediately begin damage control to stop the bleeding. Now, I don't know exactly what that means, but expect by 2014 and 2016 for the GOP to focus less on social issues--possibly not at all--and more on the economy. They may even shift more Libertarian.
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« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2012, 03:42:02 PM »

The optimistic interpretation of the result is a gridlock and hopes that our nation falls to ruin?

Terrific.
The nation is already a ruin. It is merely a question of rebuilding it, or not.

And considering the president has been re-elected - will the GOP be prepared to work with him - I mean apart from demanding him do what they want - then sit on their hands and refuse to pass anything? The ball is as much in the GOP's court as it is the president's.
But what if we believe his proposals are not "rebuilding" the ruin, but rather salting the earth?

Didn't you used to be a leftist from Australia?
Used to be leftist, I was a naive atheistic university student. Then I got woken up by the real world, employment and taxes, as well as seeing the light and the truth of our Lord and saviour Jesus Christ.

As to Australia, I was born in America but my parents immigrated to Aus when I was in my teens. I don't much like it here and plan to return to America, but it seems unwise to do so whilst the economy is still doing so terribly in America and wonderfully in Australia. If/when the economy picks up in America I'll be heading back.

You realise, of course, that Julia Gillard is far left in comparison to Barack Obama...
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« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2012, 04:01:31 PM »

Oh man, we sure got played.

In two years, the Republicans should let us take back the House of Representatives, that would be terrible.

/sarcasm
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« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2012, 04:33:22 PM »

Have a fun celebration Democrats ! Smiley Looking forward to what Obama will get accomplished these next four years lol. Winning.The.Future. Republicans should not be sad that we "Lost" 2014 and Marco rubio in 2016 will More than Make up for this.

You gotta unskew your mind homie!
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« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2012, 04:34:52 PM »

However, I should say this is only relevant If Obama remains unwilling to Change his policy of Dictation to The House Of Reps. If He makes the Strategic Decision to Give Repubs what they want then 2014 will see no change, and 2016 will be a Democrat Year.
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« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2012, 05:12:31 PM »

Mitch McConnell said he's willing to meet Obama in the center. I'm too pessimistic to think this actually possible given nothing actually changed from last night.

The election was a disappointment (especially FLorida), but now that it's over it's time to work together. As the president said, he's wanting to meet with Romney to help fix the mess. Romney had some good ideas and they can both help each other and the country.

As for 2016, Republicans better watch out and not nominate a tea-party-esque candidate. It's much wiser to go with a minority (Rubio, Martinez, Jindal). As we saw from last night, the GOP got their clocks cleaned in non-white demographics.

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« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2012, 05:31:05 PM »

I don't get how Republicans can be optimistic even in a loss. I've never been this deflated before. I've lost faith in our party, and it's leadership.

For two straight presidential elections I've supported nominees I did not believe were good candidates. I've sold out my beliefs time and time again with no results to show for it. Barack Obama didn't win this election, the GOP won it for him.

Our party, in my opinion, is at it's lowest point since Watergate. Also, I'm not keen on the idea of Chris Christie running for president in 2016.

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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2012, 08:14:49 PM »

I don't get how Republicans can be optimistic even in a loss. I've never been this deflated before. I've lost faith in our party, and it's leadership.

For two straight presidential elections I've supported nominees I did not believe were good candidates. I've sold out my beliefs time and time again with no results to show for it. Barack Obama didn't win this election, the GOP won it for him.

Our party, in my opinion, is at it's lowest point since Watergate. Also, I'm not keen on the idea of Chris Christie running for president in 2016.



Let me guess, the GOP got demolished among women, younger voters, Asians and Hispanics because McCain and Romney were not far enough to the right??
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« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2012, 10:40:27 PM »

Republicans Need to Unite under Marco Rubio or We are finished. Chris Christie Is in My numble opinion a loudmouth republican without the republican. We don't need someone to the Far-Right. We Need someone Who Believes what He says. And Believes in Uniting Americans. From my perspective as a Cuban-American and As Someone who has traveled across the states The people are crying out for a Real leader. They don't want nickle and Dime Change that Obama Has Brought to Washington They Want Change in $100.
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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2012, 12:16:37 PM »

I don't get how Republicans can be optimistic even in a loss. I've never been this deflated before. I've lost faith in our party, and it's leadership.

For two straight presidential elections I've supported nominees I did not believe were good candidates. I've sold out my beliefs time and time again with no results to show for it. Barack Obama didn't win this election, the GOP won it for him.

Our party, in my opinion, is at it's lowest point since Watergate. Also, I'm not keen on the idea of Chris Christie running for president in 2016.



Let me guess, the GOP got demolished among women, younger voters, Asians and Hispanics because McCain and Romney were not far enough to the right??

Oh,  you know me better then I do? No? then stop making dumb assumptions.

Yes, I prefer more conservative candidates but im not asking for an Allen West or a Bachmann to be nominated. I want a John Thune except not boring.

Also my main issue with BOTH is that they are massive flip floppers, and it made me feel like they just weren't right for the job.
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« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2012, 01:22:26 PM »

I don't get how Republicans can be optimistic even in a loss. I've never been this deflated before. I've lost faith in our party, and it's leadership.

For two straight presidential elections I've supported nominees I did not believe were good candidates. I've sold out my beliefs time and time again with no results to show for it. Barack Obama didn't win this election, the GOP won it for him.

Our party, in my opinion, is at it's lowest point since Watergate. Also, I'm not keen on the idea of Chris Christie running for president in 2016.



Let me guess, the GOP got demolished among women, younger voters, Asians and Hispanics because McCain and Romney were not far enough to the right??

Oh,  you know me better then I do? No? then stop making dumb assumptions.

Yes, I prefer more conservative candidates but im not asking for an Allen West or a Bachmann to be nominated. I want a John Thune except not boring.

Also my main issue with BOTH is that they are massive flip floppers, and it made me feel like they just weren't right for the job.

Given the state of the Republican Party as compared to the nation as a whole, any GOP nominee in the foreseeable future will have to be a massive flip flopper.
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« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2012, 06:44:49 PM »

The problem isn't that we nominated candidates that were too moderate. Its that we wouldn't let them run as moderates.
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« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2012, 06:47:50 PM »

The problem isn't that we nominated candidates that were too moderate. Its that we wouldn't let them run as moderates.

Your finger is closer to the pulse but its not quite: we need to stop electing candidates who have no principles, moderate or conservatives, and begin in the primaries as conservatives and try to moderate later. People see through that sh**t right away.
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« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2012, 08:53:55 PM »
« Edited: November 08, 2012, 09:01:30 PM by Californian Tony »

This idea that victories are actually bad for parties is ludicrous.

This victory will allow us to definitely establish Obama's first term legacy, and will put progressives in a strong position for negotiations over the fiscal cliff. Neoliberal economics have once again been rejected in the polls and nothing of Romney's horrible campaign proposals will come true. If Kennedy retires, the Supreme Court will finally be stopped from enacting its reactionary agenda. Also, reactionary ideas with regard to abortion, gay rights etc. have been massively rejected, and soon no major party candidate will be able to hold them.

This might not be a promising victory as 2008 was, but thing should keep moving in the right direction.
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