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« on: September 11, 2012, 04:43:42 PM »

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/docs/2012/PPP_AZ_0911b.pdf

Considering romney leads by 9 and this is a deadheat is this senate race now a tossup?
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« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2012, 05:09:12 PM »

Oooh, interesting.
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« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2012, 05:13:12 PM »

And apparently half of Arizona voters (49%) have no opinion of Carmona. The Surgeon General has room to grow. Only 21 percent have no opinion of Flake. Could this be the 2012 sleeper race?
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« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2012, 10:30:08 PM »

Dr. Carmona has run a fantastic campaign thus far. Let`s see if this race turns out to be like Chambliss/Martin 2008
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2012, 12:15:14 PM »

Entered.
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2012, 11:27:56 PM »

I don't know about poll methodology, but since Romney is so far ahead and they poll so many variables, it seems valid (if probably a little bit Democratic-leaning). Carmona has nowhere to go but up, and Flake has nowhere to go but down. Here's hoping Carmona goes further up in the polls before November.
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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2012, 09:12:52 AM »

Even if this poll is accurate, those last 7 points are going to be very tough for Carmona.
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« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2012, 11:21:11 AM »

Even if this poll is accurate, those last 7 points are going to be very tough for Carmona.

I genuinely think democrats have a ceiling that prevents them from competing like the GOP has in PA.

Would be shocked if Carmona won.
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« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2012, 11:23:28 AM »

Even if this poll is accurate, those last 7 points are going to be very tough for Carmona.

I genuinely think democrats have a ceiling that prevents them from competing like the GOP has in PA.

Would be shocked if Carmona won.

PA is a pretty poor example given that PA has a Republican senator and had 2 for a very long time.
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« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2012, 12:30:02 PM »
« Edited: September 17, 2012, 12:31:34 PM by BlondeArtisit »

Even if this poll is accurate, those last 7 points are going to be very tough for Carmona.

I genuinely think democrats have a ceiling that prevents them from competing like the GOP has in PA.

Would be shocked if Carmona won.

PA is a pretty poor example given that PA has a Republican senator and had 2 for a very long time.

Not really. Pat Toomey won his senate seat by 2points in a landslide election. He will be the number one target and it will be like santorum in 2006. He will struggle to get 45% of the vote.

Your one/two election cycles behind Illinois in its transformation from being a swing state to a blue state.




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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2012, 04:52:33 PM »

Not really. Pat Toomey won his senate seat by 2points in a landslide election. He will be the number one target and it will be like santorum in 2006. He will struggle to get 45% of the vote.

Your one/two election cycles behind Illinois in its transformation from being a swing state to a blue state.

It pains me to read such woefully ignorant posts! "Will be like Santorum in 2006." Yikes! Talk about flat out stupidity.

Do us all a favor and do a little reading on Toomey. Hell, read some of Snowstalker's posts, for Christ's sake. Toomey has done an excellent job at working with the other side and is very well respected as a statesman. He's been a national leader already and the Dems know that knocking him off will be tough. Sure, he's going to be targeted but the relationships he has made and praise he has received from scores of Democratic officials may very well keep top Dems away from the race. Also, Toomey is nothing like Santorum in terms of delivery. Toomey isn't confrontational so it is a lot easier for him to have friends across the political spectrum.

Of course, this point remains the most obvious (but ignored by the dumbs): the race is over four years away.
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2012, 05:09:32 PM »

Even if this poll is accurate, those last 7 points are going to be very tough for Carmona.

I genuinely think democrats have a ceiling that prevents them from competing like the GOP has in PA.

Would be shocked if Carmona won.

PA is a pretty poor example given that PA has a Republican senator and had 2 for a very long time.

Not really. Pat Toomey won his senate seat by 2points in a landslide election. He will be the number one target and it will be like santorum in 2006. He will struggle to get 45% of the vote.

Your one/two election cycles behind Illinois in its transformation from being a swing state to a blue state.






A Swing State to a Blue State? Are you joking? Pennsylvania is a Moderately Dem state, and I feel like it will be becoming a swing state (finally) around 2020. The Midwest is becoming significantly more Republican, and I think PA will be part of that.
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« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2012, 02:52:00 PM »

Even if this poll is accurate, those last 7 points are going to be very tough for Carmona.

I genuinely think democrats have a ceiling that prevents them from competing like the GOP has in PA.

Would be shocked if Carmona won.

PA is a pretty poor example given that PA has a Republican senator and had 2 for a very long time.

Not really. Pat Toomey won his senate seat by 2points in a landslide election. He will be the number one target and it will be like santorum in 2006. He will struggle to get 45% of the vote.

Your one/two election cycles behind Illinois in its transformation from being a swing state to a blue state.






A Swing State to a Blue State? Are you joking? Pennsylvania is a Moderately Dem state, and I feel like it will be becoming a swing state (finally) around 2020. The Midwest is becoming significantly more Republican, and I think PA will be part of that.

Recent evidence of PA not even being seriously contested by the GOP in a presidential race for the first time in decades, undermines your optomism.
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