CO, VA, OH, FL - Purple Poll: Romney vaults into the lead in the big 3
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« Reply #25 on: August 15, 2012, 03:45:45 PM »

Ohio Republicans are in the midst of a resurgence as even PPP has Kasich heavily favored for re-election.

The new Ryanmentum in  Ohio is surely due to Ohio Republicans ditching the peculiar idea of supporting Barack Obama in November.
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« Reply #26 on: August 15, 2012, 03:50:30 PM »

Salisbury steak is better than eating nothing and starving to death.

Except starving to death isn't the alternative in this case.  There do need to be cutbacks in spending, and Ryan's voucher plan is one way to achieve that, but to pretend that there will be no difference in the quality of coverage is fundamentally dishonest and the Republican pandering on this point for short-term political gain keeps the necessary reforms (whatever their final shape is) from being achievable because such reforms will need genuine broad-based support.

The dishonest claims that Romney and Ryan make about their own plans are detrimental to the goal of entitlement reform.
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« Reply #27 on: August 15, 2012, 03:50:46 PM »

Interesting to note that Romney-Ryan have fair-to-strong leads with Independents in 3 of the 4 states. And in the fourth state where they don't lead with Independents, they're still leading overall.

49-40% in Virginia
53-31% in Ohio
47-43% in Colorado
40-52% in Florida
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« Reply #28 on: August 15, 2012, 03:51:24 PM »

The new Ryanmentum in  Ohio is surely due to Ohio Republicans ditching the peculiar idea of supporting Barack Obama in November.

Actually you have that backwards - the reason they are ceasing their support of Obama is Ryanmentum.
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« Reply #29 on: August 15, 2012, 03:52:03 PM »

No, I saw it. People like Ryan, Bandit, he has a higher approval rating than Romney, Obama, or Biden.

These states have elderly people.

That like Ryan.

Regular people hardly know anything about Ryan yet and probably knew next to nothing about him when this poll was taken.
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« Reply #30 on: August 15, 2012, 03:54:31 PM »
« Edited: August 15, 2012, 03:56:19 PM by MorningInAmerica »

Florida, too, is a state that the GOP should keep a very close eye on. Romney simply cannot afford to lose it.

For sure, an anti-Medicare VP is the best way to win Florida....

President Obama has raided $716 Billion from Medicare to pay for "Obamacare". Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan are working to ensure Medicare is affordable to future generations.
I don't think turning into a voucher program and letting seniors look for coupons in the newspaper "ensuring Medicare is affordable to future generations".

This is false. The most recent version of the Ryan-Plan says Seniors who choose to opt-in to the old form of Medicare are allowed to do so.
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« Reply #31 on: August 15, 2012, 03:55:03 PM »

No, I saw it. People like Ryan, Bandit, he has a higher approval rating than Romney, Obama, or Biden.

These states have elderly people.

That like Ryan.

Regular people hardly know anything about Ryan yet and probably knew next to nothing about him when this poll was taken.

And then Romney will outspend Obama defining him, and then they'll vote.
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« Reply #32 on: August 15, 2012, 04:06:43 PM »
« Edited: August 15, 2012, 04:09:45 PM by pepper11 »

Excellent group of polls for America's Comeback Team!

Ryan is an excellent addition.  Dems gleeful with the Ryan pick may be starting to second guess their reaction.

Also, MOST interesting point of the polling...

Regarding Medicare...

"although in Florida, the view of how the two tickets would fare on that front is a tie, with 11 percent undecided"

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« Reply #33 on: August 15, 2012, 04:10:24 PM »

No, I saw it. People like Ryan, Bandit, he has a higher approval rating than Romney, Obama, or Biden.

These states have elderly people.

That like Ryan.

Regular people hardly know anything about Ryan yet and probably knew next to nothing about him when this poll was taken.

And then Romney will outspend Obama defining him, and then they'll vote.

Romney has the cash to outspend Obama ON EVERY ISSUE.
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« Reply #34 on: August 15, 2012, 04:15:19 PM »

No, I saw it. People like Ryan, Bandit, he has a higher approval rating than Romney, Obama, or Biden.

These states have elderly people.

That like Ryan.

Regular people hardly know anything about Ryan yet and probably knew next to nothing about him when this poll was taken.

And then Romney will outspend Obama defining him, and then they'll vote.

Romney has the cash to outspend Obama ON EVERY ISSUE.

I guess that's why those Bain/tax releases issues never got any traction.
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« Reply #35 on: August 15, 2012, 04:43:53 PM »

Clearly we have a polling divide. On one side we have Gallup/Rasmussen/Purple Strategies, on the other we have PPP and a bunch of small firms, while Quinnipiac are inconsistent. It's gonna be interesting to see who's right.
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« Reply #36 on: August 15, 2012, 04:45:52 PM »

Clearly we have a polling divide. On one side we have Gallup/Rasmussen/Purple Strategies, on the other we have PPP and a bunch of small firms, while Quinnipiac are inconsistent. It's gonna be interesting to see who's right.

Pew and Bloomberg are some of Obama's best polls - and they're usually among the most accurate.
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« Reply #37 on: August 15, 2012, 04:49:52 PM »

Clearly we have a polling divide. On one side we have Gallup/Rasmussen/Purple Strategies, on the other we have PPP and a bunch of small firms, while Quinnipiac are inconsistent. It's gonna be interesting to see who's right.

Pew and Bloomberg are some of Obama's best polls - and they're usually among the most accurate.
Well in 2010 everyone overestimated the republicans, so polls with a democratic house effect were most accurate. I think that will be balanced out this year.
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« Reply #38 on: August 15, 2012, 05:46:52 PM »

So have the purple people stopped the whole "Wild West" thing?

- Florida favors the Ryan plan, contrary to CW
- Not a fan of favorables/job approval rating before the matchup question.  However, Obama's are the same basically everywhere and Romney's are the worst in Ohio, where he has a lead, so...
- There is a Ryan bounce
- it's not good for Obama if VA starts leaning Romney, though who knows how this Goode thing will play out
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« Reply #39 on: August 15, 2012, 05:50:33 PM »

Purple is the only pollster to show Romney leading in Florida and/or Ohio since May and Virginia since June.
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« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2012, 06:25:30 PM »

Purple Poll continues to be the only pollster to show Romney ahead in Ohio I see.
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« Reply #41 on: August 16, 2012, 02:25:29 AM »

Aren't Purple very R-leaning.

Romney leading by 1 in Florida can't really be good news for them.
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« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2012, 02:50:11 AM »

Aren't Purple very R-leaning.

Romney leading by 1 in Florida can't really be good news for them.

They've been R-leaning relative to the polling averages and what Nate Silver calls the 'consensus' but since they have no track record it's impossible to tell whether they're R-leaning relative to election results.

Between this and the frankly disappointing quasi-Florida-poll out of SurveyUSA, we're getting a lot of statistical noise from America's Wang but not much of actual value.
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« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2012, 04:24:40 AM »

Ohio.

Purple R+2 Romney 46%
Ras Tie Romney 45%
PPP D+3 Romney 45%

There is one thing that is static in these Ohio polls.
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