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Filuwaúrdjan
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« Reply #50 on: September 11, 2004, 04:03:18 PM »

Al, please no D.U.P. Although I think they could do well in some areas.  Mr Paisley did get an honarary degree from Bob Jones U.

He'd win Greenville County for sure... but I'm keeping Northern Ireland out of this...
Mind you, the Tory M.P for Basingstoke run (unsuccessfully) as a DUP candidate in the NI Assembly Elections last year...
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« Reply #51 on: September 11, 2004, 05:14:13 PM »

This will be a serious and detailed analysis of how different parts of the U.S would vote if the party system in the U.S was the same as the U.K

Voting patterns will be determined by current voting patterns, historical voting patterns (in a few cases only), demographics (including ethnic voting patterns. As in example in the U.K, Irish Catholics almost never vote Tory) and other factors such as religion and economic areas.
Although some patterns will look strange, this is serious and not tounge-in-cheek.

The Spanish system is an example of a good one. The British system does have some problems with the zones.
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« Reply #52 on: September 12, 2004, 06:17:37 AM »

Al, please no D.U.P. Although I think they could do well in some areas.
Yeah, I thought about that, too - the Deep South might well have a party system of its own, totally based on racial voting, supporting federal goverments from the outside, like the Irish party system from Catholic suffrage to Partition.
Of course, the reason it probably wouldn't be so is that Ireland's borders are much more clearly defined.
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« Reply #53 on: September 12, 2004, 07:18:48 AM »

Al, please no D.U.P. Although I think they could do well in some areas.
Yeah, I thought about that, too - the Deep South might well have a party system of its own, totally based on racial voting, supporting federal goverments from the outside, like the Irish party system from Catholic suffrage to Partition.
Of course, the reason it probably wouldn't be so is that Ireland's borders are much more clearly defined.

I think Hawaii and Alaska would have their own party systems... certainly Alaska would.
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« Reply #54 on: September 12, 2004, 05:22:15 PM »

It is likely that socialist workers co-operatives would have sprung up in the early 20th century, epsecially in the heavy mining counties. Any Northern English, Welsh or Scottish people here will know what I mean; working mens clubs, town improvement programmes, public works like building schools, homes. The remnants of which in the UK for The Co-Operative Party, a party affiliated with Labour (or the Democrats in the US i'd imagine) The influence of the co-ops would have waned by the war years, but with a UK party system, it is likely the Democrats would be more left-wing, at least until the 1980's and that it would still have a very very strong Southern base, similar to Labour's in the UK (where ethnically divided areas will have similar voting patterns based on income/class rather than race/religion)
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« Reply #55 on: September 13, 2004, 02:02:52 PM »

It is likely that socialist workers co-operatives would have sprung up in the early 20th century, epsecially in the heavy mining counties. Any Northern English, Welsh or Scottish people here will know what I mean; working mens clubs, town improvement programmes, public works like building schools, homes. The remnants of which in the UK for The Co-Operative Party, a party affiliated with Labour (or the Democrats in the US i'd imagine) The influence of the co-ops would have waned by the war years, but with a UK party system, it is likely the Democrats would be more left-wing, at least until the 1980's and that it would still have a very very strong Southern base, similar to Labour's in the UK (where ethnically divided areas will have similar voting patterns based on income/class rather than race/religion)

I'm a member of the Co-op Party Smiley

It'll feature in Central Appalachia (where the biggest coalfields are) and certain parts of the Rust Belt.
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« Reply #56 on: September 19, 2004, 10:08:33 AM »

Added Jackson and Central MS
Might add more details to both later
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« Reply #57 on: September 19, 2004, 07:37:02 PM »

British politics are incredibly class-based and depressing.  Transporting the UK parties to the US would require them changing, becoming at least slightly better dressed, less statist, and less class-oriented.  Class is largely shunned here except for the very rich and the poor.
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« Reply #58 on: September 21, 2004, 10:59:07 AM »

The list now reads:

Rhode Island
Massachusetts
Connecticut
Maine
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Mississippi (unfinished)
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Ohio (not started yet)

Which state after Ohio? I was thinking maybe Michigan as it would translate well.
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« Reply #59 on: September 21, 2004, 01:47:08 PM »

Michigan!
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« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2004, 04:05:51 PM »

Gonna be an update on this any time soon?

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« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2005, 07:15:09 PM »

bump.. I'd like to see how the other Southern States would pattern out.
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