72% of US troops in Iraq say we should pull out in the next year

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Why do 72% of US troops in Iraq hate the troops?

http://select.nytimes.com/2006/02/28/opinion/28kristof.html?_r=1&hp&oref=login

[phk]

They don't want to be caught inbetween a Sunni-Shia civil war.

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They don't want to be caught inbetween a Sunni-Shia civil war.

Well 'dem liberals need to either support the troops or leave America.

[minionofmidas]

You think Vietnam was any different?

[TheresNoMoney]

Sean Hannity and Rush Limbaugh's heads will explode when they see this.

Hell, at least half of this board's heads will explode as well.

Why do the troops hate freedom?

[J. J.]

I'm reasonable sure if you ask the troops landing on D-Day that if they had a choice between being home in the US or being shot at by the Germans, they would said, "Duh, home."

Do you actually expect troops to say, "Yes, I'd rather be here being shot at than home with the wife and kids."

[nlm]

Why are we still in Iraq again? With all the political double speak I forget the supposed reason. Was it to bring democracy to 3 groups of people that want to kill each other? I think that was it. Or was it to use our troops as moving targets "over there" to keep the growing terrorist movement, that our actions keep growing, too busy to look our way? That may have been it. Or is it still about WMD's and bad men connected to the 9/11 strike? I don't think that's it anymore.

I'd like to hear from the 28% that think we should "stay the course", that would be interesting. The 72% that want out, that's easy to understand.

[MODU]

I'm reasonable sure if you ask the troops landing on D-Day that if they had a choice between being home in the US or being shot at by the Germans, they would said, "Duh, home."

Do you actually expect troops to say, "Yes, I'd rather be here being shot at than home with the wife and kids."

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[Beet]

LOL, after D-Day the Allied troops occupied France for about 1 year before the founding of the Fourth Republic. We have already been in Iraq for 3 times as long as liberated France, and no sign of a sovereign self-supporting government in sight. It is interesting that seven days before the surrender of Paris, the Parisian people launched a general strike and threw up barricades against the Germans. This is because they knew the liberating armies were there to throw back the aggressors and re-establish France's right to national self-determination. Bush's crusade is quite the opposite: Bush being the aggressor with the purpose of undermining Iraq's self-determination.

[J. J.]

LOL, after D-Day the Allied troops occupied France for about 1 year before the founding of the Fourth Republic. We have already been in Iraq for 3 times as long as liberated France, and no sign of a sovereign self-supporting government in sight. It is interesting that seven days before the surrender of Paris, the Parisian people launched a general strike and threw up barricades against the Germans. This is because they knew the liberating armies were there to throw back the aggressors and re-establish France's right to national self-determination. Bush's crusade is quite the opposite: Bush being the aggressor with the purpose of undermining Iraq's self-determination.

May I remind you that the US still has troops in Germany and Japan.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

LOL, after D-Day the Allied troops occupied France for about 1 year before the founding of the Fourth Republic. We have already been in Iraq for 3 times as long as liberated France, and no sign of a sovereign self-supporting government in sight. It is interesting that seven days before the surrender of Paris, the Parisian people launched a general strike and threw up barricades against the Germans. This is because they knew the liberating armies were there to throw back the aggressors and re-establish France's right to national self-determination. Bush's crusade is quite the opposite: Bush being the aggressor with the purpose of undermining Iraq's self-determination.

May I remind you that the US still has troops in Germany and Japan.

On the plus side, both of those countries are now far less violent than the US.

[nlm]

May I remind you that the US still has troops in Germany and Japan.

And boy are those GI's taking fire while keeping the peace from those nutcases in Japan and Germany. Come on.

[J. J.]

May I remind you that the US still has troops in Germany and Japan.

And boy are those GI's taking fire while keeping the peace from those nutcases in Japan and Germany. Come on.

We didn't have "peace" in Europe, even in France, after WWII.  You are talking about decades prior to "peace," in Europe, even considereing that the Soviet Union clamped down on half of it.  You had a revolt in Ukrane until the early 1950's.  Don't be so obtuse.

[nlm]

Hey you're the one that highlighted the word "still" in your post, like the fact that they were "still" there was of some significance when comparing their situation to Iraq, not me. The situations were very different. I guess reading one lame self serving analogy after another can make you "obtuse" after a while, my apologies.

[J. J.]

Hey you're the one that highlighted the word "still" in your post, like the fact that they were "still" there was of some significance when comparing their situation to Iraq, not me. The situations were very different. I guess reading one lame self serving analogy after another can make you "obtuse" after a while, my apologies.

I'm noting that analogy to Europe in general and France in specific is not accurate.  You didn't have American troops being shot at, but you still didn't have a government that worked either, and one that was radically changed (after a coup attempt, and arguably illegally) twelve years later and subject to still another coup attempt in early 1960's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Fourth_Republic

This wasn't some third world county, patched together after WWI, but a nation state that was relatively well defined after the 100 Years War.

[Sam Spade]

hmmm...  A Zogby poll....  hmmm...