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« on: October 21, 2011, 01:13:01 PM »

A weird poll, read it yourself:

"Romney Wins in Blowout Over Obama in 2012"
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2011, 01:15:31 PM »

Don't like the results of current polls, so just produced some rigged poll so your guy wins. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2011, 01:22:26 PM »

The final popular vote tally:

Romney/Rubio  59.1%
Obama/Biden 44.6%

Bank on it. 
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2011, 01:30:07 PM »

lol @ NewsMax poll

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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2011, 02:12:25 PM »

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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2011, 02:14:08 PM »

The final popular vote tally:

Romney/Rubio  59.1%
Obama/Biden 44.6%

Bank on it. 

that's probably my wife voting multiple times, as she did in 2008
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2011, 02:53:14 PM »

I doubt they even really took a poll, they probably just made up a bunch of numbers, it is Newsmax.
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2011, 03:15:22 PM »

Obama's problems will be:

- Enthusiastically higher Republican turnout
- Enthusiastically lower Democrat turnout
- Somewhat likely lower African American turnout
- Very likely lower youth turnout
- Near total loss of male white vote, even lower than 2008
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2011, 03:21:52 PM »

45%-39% is a blowout? This is one of the dumbest articles I've ever read. And the "poll" itself... LOL.
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2011, 03:22:57 PM »

Newsmax may not be the most credible source and the Dems on this site may laugh, however that being said this poll does show the increasingly accepted narrative that Obama's ambitions for a 2nd term are in trouble in 2012. That in it's self can't be denied by anyone at the moment.

Although, I do wonder why I even bothered to respond to this thread since all the Dem hacks on this site are going to get on my case now and claim that "Obama's aheadz of Romney" He" will winz states like Arizona, Georgia, and Missouri inz addtionaz to what he won in 2008"! And that I'm just delusional.

Well that's just my two cents on this,
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2011, 03:28:02 PM »

Newsmax may not be the most credible source and the Dems on this site may laugh, however that being said this poll does show the increasingly accepted narrative that Obama's ambitions for a 2nd term are in trouble in 2012. That in it's self can't be denied by anyone at the moment.

Although, I do wonder why I even bothered to respond to this thread since all the Dem hacks on this site are going to get on my case now and claim that "Obama's aheadz of Romney" He" will winz states like Arizona, Georgia, and Missouri inz addtionaz to what he won in 2008"! And that I'm just delusional.

Well that's just my two cents on this,

NewsMax also got their jollies off when McCain was shown ahead of Obama
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/zogby-poll-obama-mccain/2008/08/04/id/324794

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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2011, 03:29:35 PM »

Newsmax may not be the most credible source and the Dems on this site may laugh, however that being said this poll does show the increasingly accepted narrative that Obama's ambitions for a 2nd term are in trouble in 2012. That in it's self can't be denied by anyone at the moment.

Although, I do wonder why I even bothered to respond to this thread since all the Dem hacks on this site are going to get on my case now and claim that "Obama's aheadz of Romney" He" will winz states like Arizona, Georgia, and Missouri inz addtionaz to what he won in 2008"! And that I'm just delusional.

Well that's just my two cents on this,

NewsMax also got their jollies off when McCain was shown ahead of Obama
http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/zogby-poll-obama-mccain/2008/08/04/id/324794



They are showing what such an election could look like at the moment. Not over a year from now.
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2011, 11:43:13 PM »


In the electoral college it would be.  Obama only won by 7% but more than doubled McCain's electoral votes.
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« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2011, 02:38:19 AM »

I doubt they even really took a poll, they probably just made up a bunch of numbers, it is Newsmax.

It isn't a poll; it is a model of the electorate of 2012 resembling or becoming even more R-friendly than that of 2010 (which of course would be a smashing success for Republicans who would win the Presidency and get majorities in the House and Senate suitable for amending the Constitution at will with the aid of more state legislatures going Republican)... which seems unlikely. Republicans' enthusiasm for their politicians may have intensified even more, but that is unlikely to result in even more votes. One can vote only once -- at least I so hope.

The most partisan Republicans could never have been more enthusiastic about Goldwater in 1964, and the most partisan Democrats could hardly have been more enthusiastic about McGovern in 1972 -- and look what both cases were good for in those years.

Poor as the approval ratings are for the President, those for freshly-elected Republican governors in Florida, Iowa, Maine, Michigan, Ohio, and Wisconsin are atrocious. The generic ballot now favors Democrats in the House and Senate.

So far as I can tell, Republicans win big in 2012 only if they are capable of intimidating voters into voting for the Republican ticket or can successfully cull the vote.   Voter participation ordinarily rises in a Presidential year.

Newsmax is not a credible source of news. It makes FoX Propaganda Channel's claim to be  "fair and balanced" look credible by contrast.
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« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2011, 07:09:15 AM »

the purported blowout is only Romney +6 with huge undecideds.

Kerry probably led Bush by that much at some point in the summertime, for reference.
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« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2011, 01:08:47 PM »

The GOP is going to have to increase turnout just to fight demographic changes and tread water. Millions of anchor babies have turned 18 and millions of old white people have died just since 2008. I don't think they get how screwed they are. And putting forth people like Michael Steele and Herman Cain isn't helping.
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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2011, 01:19:05 PM »

Newsmax = Invalid.
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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2011, 02:08:49 PM »

The final popular vote tally:

Romney/Rubio  59.1%
Obama/Biden 44.6%

Bank on it. 

Those numbers don't add up. Take a good look.

Rubio has suddenly become toxic for reasons that should be obvious.
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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2011, 02:38:41 PM »

The GOP is going to have to increase turnout just to fight demographic changes and tread water. Millions of anchor babies have turned 18 and millions of old white people have died just since 2008. I don't think they get how screwed they are. And putting forth people like Michael Steele and Herman Cain isn't helping.

President Obama needs to act as if his re-election is in doubt. If he goes complacent, then he will lose, and he will take the Democratic majority in the Senate down with him, and whatever chance Democrats have of regaining the House will be gone for at least ten years -- and they can assume that they will be as irrelevant as the Whigs. But if he campaigns as effectively in the summer and early autumn of 2012, he wins. The 2012 election is that important. The Right and the Left agree on that even if they have wildly-disparate ideas on what America must become.
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« Reply #19 on: October 22, 2011, 02:39:09 PM »

The final popular vote tally:

Romney/Rubio  59.1%
Obama/Biden 44.6%

Bank on it. 

This is a joke, right?  59.1+44.6=103.7%
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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2011, 02:50:19 PM »

Newsmax may not be the most credible source

That's putting it mildly.

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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2011, 03:13:22 PM »

The moment 'Newsmax' appeared this ceased being a credible thread.
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« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2011, 04:09:19 PM »

The credibility of Newsmax doesn't matter for the poll. It's the credibility of Insider Advantage that is relevant. Not sure that's any better though.
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« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2011, 10:35:24 PM »

Wow, didn't realize how many Democrat hacks came on this thread...
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« Reply #24 on: October 23, 2011, 12:06:25 AM »

The final popular vote tally:

Romney/Rubio  59.1%
Obama/Biden 44.6%

Bank on it. 

This is a joke, right?  59.1+44.6=103.7%


Don't feed the troll.
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