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« on: October 21, 2011, 03:14:24 PM »

CNN is about to report sometime this hour based on an interview between Candy Crowley and the Vice President that he is considering another White House bid in 2016.  Thoughts?

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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2011, 03:19:30 PM »

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/21/biden-in-2016/
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2011, 03:29:06 PM »

I don't think it will happen. Its either going to be Hilary Clinton or someone new, like Andrew Cuomo.

Cuomo/Bennett vs Christie/Sandoval 2016!
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2011, 03:35:29 PM »

He'll be 74 years old in November 2016 fwiw
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2011, 04:00:12 PM »

He says this every six months or so.  Apparently, most people don't take him seriously as a 2016 prospect, so he keeps bringing it up, in an attempt to let people know he's serious.

Sort of like how he announced his 2008 campaign about 10 times.
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« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2011, 06:34:37 PM »
« Edited: October 21, 2011, 06:36:34 PM by 999 PLAN!!! »

Good lord Joe, just let it go...

Although, i'd consider supporting him.
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2011, 09:27:30 PM »

I'd happily vote for him (for nom & GE), not sure he could win the nomination though.
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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2011, 11:29:23 PM »

If it was Biden vs Cuomo, I'd go Biden easily. If there was a Feingold like candidate about though, I'd go with them.

We really need more progressive female governors with non-zero national profiles.
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2011, 05:04:17 PM »

I'm not really inclined to believe the theories that Obama promised Hillary anything in return for her support in 2008.  Even in a cynical view of her, she had extremely little leeway as far as full-throated campaigning for Obama in 2008.  That said, I do think one factor (out of several) in his choice of Biden was that if Obama won two terms, the incumbent VP would be a bit old come 2016 which would mitigate the threat to Hillary's presidential ambition if she wanted to run then.  As opposed to a Tim Kaine, Evan Bayh or Kathleen Sebelius as incumbent VP.  Even without any overt communication from Obama, the Clintons could game ahead and feel less conflict of interest in supporting Obama/Biden.  (And I think one factor in offering her State was to avoid chatter of a primary challenge if the going got tough, not totally unlike offering Huntsman China which has knocked him out by association if not preoccupation.)  Biden's age wouldn't rule him out in 2016 but would make him vulnerable to having his advantage of the Vice-Preisdent's office neutralized.  I've long thought, barring a dominant Hillary run, the nomination process is likely to reflect frustrations in the party with Obama, maybe with an effort to draft Russ Feingold or if she wins next year, Elizabeth Warren.  A lot depends on whether Obama is re-elected and if he is, what happens.  I have to assume Republicans won't be any more accommodating than they are now.  Would that mean Obama acts more like he did in his first two and a half years or his presidency or more like he has the past month, and how do Democrats react to it?  If Obama loses, and you have a Republican president in a recovering economy, Biden might be one of the few Democrats eager for a chance as nominee.
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2011, 06:33:09 PM »

I'm not really inclined to believe the theories that Obama promised Hillary anything in return for her support in 2008.  Even in a cynical view of her, she had extremely little leeway as far as full-throated campaigning for Obama in 2008.  That said, I do think one factor (out of several) in his choice of Biden was that if Obama won two terms, the incumbent VP would be a bit old come 2016 which would mitigate the threat to Hillary's presidential ambition if she wanted to run then.  As opposed to a Tim Kaine, Evan Bayh or Kathleen Sebelius as incumbent VP.  Even without any overt communication from Obama, the Clintons could game ahead and feel less conflict of interest in supporting Obama/Biden.  (And I think one factor in offering her State was to avoid chatter of a primary challenge if the going got tough, not totally unlike offering Huntsman China which has knocked him out by association if not preoccupation.)  Biden's age wouldn't rule him out in 2016 but would make him vulnerable to having his advantage of the Vice-Preisdent's office neutralized.  I've long thought, barring a dominant Hillary run, the nomination process is likely to reflect frustrations in the party with Obama, maybe with an effort to draft Russ Feingold or if she wins next year, Elizabeth Warren.  A lot depends on whether Obama is re-elected and if he is, what happens.  I have to assume Republicans won't be any more accommodating than they are now.  Would that mean Obama acts more like he did in his first two and a half years or his presidency or more like he has the past month, and how do Democrats react to it?  If Obama loses, and you have a Republican president in a recovering economy, Biden might be one of the few Democrats eager for a chance as nominee.
Both of these would be good, although there is little chance of Feingold running since he isn't interested in becoming governor or Senator of WI again. Biden is pretty repulsive candidate though.
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« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2011, 07:31:31 PM »

I'm not really inclined to believe the theories that Obama promised Hillary anything in return for her support in 2008.  Even in a cynical view of her, she had extremely little leeway as far as full-throated campaigning for Obama in 2008.  That said, I do think one factor (out of several) in his choice of Biden was that if Obama won two terms, the incumbent VP would be a bit old come 2016 which would mitigate the threat to Hillary's presidential ambition if she wanted to run then.  As opposed to a Tim Kaine, Evan Bayh or Kathleen Sebelius as incumbent VP.  Even without any overt communication from Obama, the Clintons could game ahead and feel less conflict of interest in supporting Obama/Biden.  (And I think one factor in offering her State was to avoid chatter of a primary challenge if the going got tough, not totally unlike offering Huntsman China which has knocked him out by association if not preoccupation.)  Biden's age wouldn't rule him out in 2016 but would make him vulnerable to having his advantage of the Vice-Preisdent's office neutralized.  I've long thought, barring a dominant Hillary run, the nomination process is likely to reflect frustrations in the party with Obama, maybe with an effort to draft Russ Feingold or if she wins next year, Elizabeth Warren.  A lot depends on whether Obama is re-elected and if he is, what happens.  I have to assume Republicans won't be any more accommodating than they are now.  Would that mean Obama acts more like he did in his first two and a half years or his presidency or more like he has the past month, and how do Democrats react to it?  If Obama loses, and you have a Republican president in a recovering economy, Biden might be one of the few Democrats eager for a chance as nominee.
Both of these would be good, although there is little chance of Feingold running since he isn't interested in becoming governor or Senator of WI again. Biden is pretty repulsive candidate though.

It's possible Feingold is only interested in running for president and could even being out of the senate for 6 years.  But yeah, if I had to bet, he doesn't run.  Why's Biden repulsive?
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« Reply #11 on: October 23, 2011, 04:50:43 PM »

I'm not really inclined to believe the theories that Obama promised Hillary anything in return for her support in 2008.  Even in a cynical view of her, she had extremely little leeway as far as full-throated campaigning for Obama in 2008.  That said, I do think one factor (out of several) in his choice of Biden was that if Obama won two terms, the incumbent VP would be a bit old come 2016 which would mitigate the threat to Hillary's presidential ambition if she wanted to run then.  As opposed to a Tim Kaine, Evan Bayh or Kathleen Sebelius as incumbent VP.  Even without any overt communication from Obama, the Clintons could game ahead and feel less conflict of interest in supporting Obama/Biden.  (And I think one factor in offering her State was to avoid chatter of a primary challenge if the going got tough, not totally unlike offering Huntsman China which has knocked him out by association if not preoccupation.)  Biden's age wouldn't rule him out in 2016 but would make him vulnerable to having his advantage of the Vice-Preisdent's office neutralized.  I've long thought, barring a dominant Hillary run, the nomination process is likely to reflect frustrations in the party with Obama, maybe with an effort to draft Russ Feingold or if she wins next year, Elizabeth Warren.  A lot depends on whether Obama is re-elected and if he is, what happens.  I have to assume Republicans won't be any more accommodating than they are now.  Would that mean Obama acts more like he did in his first two and a half years or his presidency or more like he has the past month, and how do Democrats react to it?  If Obama loses, and you have a Republican president in a recovering economy, Biden might be one of the few Democrats eager for a chance as nominee.
Both of these would be good, although there is little chance of Feingold running since he isn't interested in becoming governor or Senator of WI again. Biden is pretty repulsive candidate though.

It's possible Feingold is only interested in running for president and could even being out of the senate for 6 years.  But yeah, if I had to bet, he doesn't run.  Why's Biden repulsive?
He made Sarah Palin look okay in a debate.
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