south carolina enters the 21st century!!

[WalterMitty]

...ok maybe not the 21st century...but they made a giant leap into the 20th century, at least.

the palmetto state finally lifted its ban of tattoos.  so now it is legal to get a tattoo in sc. 

only one state still has a ban on tattoo receiving--oklahoma.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

On what basis were they banned in the first place

[minionofmidas]

Amazing.
Tattooing used to be illegal in the GDR, btw.

[WalterMitty]

On what basis were they banned in the first place

i have no idea.  i never knew that any state was so backwards (but im not surprised) as to ban receiving tattoos, until i read an article in the paper today detailing sc's lifting of the prohibition.

i dislike tattoos.  but i do think people ought to be able to receive them if they so choose.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

How the hell was that even constitutional in the first place? 

[WalterMitty]

im sure they used the health argument ("you could get aids!") to hide the real reason for the ban (intolerance)

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Meh....I just hate "we have to protect people from themselves" laws.  The minor ones I really don't pay attention to. 

[A18]

How the hell was that even constitutional in the first place? 

How the hell was that not constitutional?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

a tattoo is a form of expression. free speech.

they were illegal because lots of states banned tattooing back when it was usually unsanitary and posed a major health risk, but they slowly all legalized it, except SC and OK. A high ranking Republican state senator in SC kept blocking the repeal, saying that tattoos were prohibited by the Bible.

This is bad news for lots of tattoo parlors in North Carolina and Georgia though.

[A18]

This wasn't enacted by the U.S. Congress, and the South Carolina constitution only protects political speech (like every other state I've seen).

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

oh, not your "states don't have to respect the constitution" nonsense again.

a state could suspend all civil liberties and basically turn into a police state, and if a judge overturned that, you'd call him a fascist. You're a ing moronic laugh riot.

[A18]

A police state isn't a republican form of government, and I don't need to hear this sh**t from a ing retard who already said judges don't have to respect the Constitution, and should just make sh**t up.

One, tattoos are not free speech under the first amendment. Two, state legislatures abridging free speech is not a violation of the Constitution.

[minionofmidas]

A police state isn't a republican form of government.

Nonsense.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

so if a state passed laws saying that anyone who criticized the governor or legislature should be arrested, and a judge overturned it, would that judge be a fascist?

I love how you think judges that limit government's power and increase freedom (such as in Lawrence v. Texas) are fascists. Disagree with them if you want, but calling them fascist is ridiculous.

[Bono]

A police state isn't a republican form of government.

Nonsense.

He means the classical definition of a Republic.

[Bono]

oh, not your "states don't have to respect the constitution" nonsense again.

a state could suspend all civil liberties and basically turn into a police state, and if a judge overturned that, you'd call him a fascist. You're a g moronic laugh riot.

Can you read?
The first ammendment says: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. "

Where does it say anything about states?

[minionofmidas]

A police state isn't a republican form of government.

Nonsense.

He means the classical definition of a Republic.

No, I do.

[A18]

so if a state passed laws saying that anyone who criticized the governor or legislature should be arrested, and a judge overturned it, would that judge be a fascist?

I love how you think judges that limit government's power and increase freedom (such as in Lawrence v. Texas) are fascists. Disagree with them if you want, but calling them fascist is ridiculous.

No, because the freedom of speech is protected by every State constitution. However, federal judges need to stay out of it; they are no more enlightened than State judges.

And a fascist judge is one that subverts the republican process to increase the power of the courts.

In regards to the republican form of government, I'm citing the Constitution:

The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.

Freedom of political speech is actually part of a republican form of government. Protection of tattoos is not, and we all know that.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

actually, Peter summed it up pretty well here: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=14505.15

[A18]

See my reply.

The States should be able to act, domestically, as individual countries - with as little federal intervention as possible.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

People who want to be legally tattooed in South Carolina still have to wait a while.   First off, DHEC (Dept. of Health and Environmental Control) has to finish the regulations and submit them to the Legislature for approval.  That process likely won't be done until mid-June.  Even then, a local community has to approve an ordinace allowing tattooing before DHEC will issue a permit and so far only the towns of Myrtle Beach and Loris (both in Horry County which is the area of SC that is simultaneously both most dependent on tourism and most socially progressive).  Some places are taking a wait and see approach, but others have flat out decided that they will not allow tattoo parlors to open there.

[Alcon]

Somehow when I think of Oklahoma, I think of lots and lots of tattoos. Funny.

[JohnG]

Meh....I just hate "we have to protect people from themselves" laws.  The minor ones I really don't pay attention to. 

Does this mean you oppose Social Security, the minimum wage, drug laws, seatbelt laws, distributing condoms in schools, welfare, and lawsuits against tobacco companies?