Dana Milbank: What would Hillary have Done?

[Beet]

BRTD is going to hate this thread, but... Dana Milbank at the Washington Post makes few points about how Hillary would likely have governed differently than Obama -

1. "Clinton's populist appeal to low-income white voters, union members and workers of the Rust Belt was not enough to overcome Obama's energized youth vote. But Clinton's working-class whites were the very ones who switched to the Republicans on Tuesday."

2. "Clinton campaign advisers I spoke with say she almost certainly would have pulled the plug on comprehensive health-care reform rather than allow it to monopolize the agenda for 15 months."

3. "Clinton, for example, first called for a 90-day foreclosure moratorium in December 2007, as part of a package to fight the early stages of the mortgage crisis with a five-year freeze on subprime rates and $30 billion to avoid foreclosures. But an Obama campaign adviser dismissed Clinton's moratorium, saying it would "reward people for bad behavior."

4. "there can be little doubt that, whatever policies emerged, she would have maintained a laser focus on the economy; after all, she did that during the 2008 campaign, when it wasn't as central an issue. She got little credit, for example, when she gave a speech in Iowa in November 2007 warning about the dangers of new financial instruments. Now, it seems prescient; then, it sounded boring."

[Lunar]

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/07/mad_bitch.php

Pretending to be a couple of cranky old guys, the Washington Post's Dana Milbank and Chris Cillizza riff that Hillary Clinton is a "Mad Bitch," showing that maybe there's not much pretending involved. Painful to watch on almost every level.

[Landslide Lyndon]

Is the number two reason supposed to persuade Democrats that they made a mistake?
I doubt that with Clinton in the White House, Ben Nelson, Lieberman, Lincoln and the rest of the gang would fall in line and let the bill pass swiftly.

As for reason number one, her husband won the same voters in 1992 but they had no problem to abandon him two years later.

[Badger]

BRTD is going to hate this thread, but... Dana Milbank at the Washington Post makes few points about how Hillary would likely have governed differently than Obama -

1. "Clinton's populist appeal to low-income white voters, union members and workers of the Rust Belt was not enough to overcome Obama's energized youth vote. But Clinton's working-class whites were the very ones who switched to the Republicans on Tuesday."

2. "Clinton campaign advisers I spoke with say she almost certainly would have pulled the plug on comprehensive health-care reform rather than allow it to monopolize the agenda for 15 months."

3. "Clinton, for example, first called for a 90-day foreclosure moratorium in December 2007, as part of a package to fight the early stages of the mortgage crisis with a five-year freeze on subprime rates and $30 billion to avoid foreclosures. But an Obama campaign adviser dismissed Clinton's moratorium, saying it would "reward people for bad behavior."

4. "there can be little doubt that, whatever policies emerged, she would have maintained a laser focus on the economy; after all, she did that during the 2008 campaign, when it wasn't as central an issue. She got little credit, for example, when she gave a speech in Iowa in November 2007 warning about the dangers of new financial instruments. Now, it seems prescient; then, it sounded boring."

Jesus Tapdancing Christ, not this again.

Hillary would've been demonized by the right every bit as bad as Obama (or Bill) was in exactly the same way; the economy would've rebounded no better or sooner after Bush's Great Recession; and Democrats would've had there asses handed to them just as bad. Hillary's appeal to "blue collar voters" outside of Democratic primary voters and Arkansas is vastly overrated. She's the name that launched the tea party origins in the mid 90's, remember? Mike Olivero might've flipped his race; otherwise no change. And it sounds like Hillary wouldnt have even got healthcare reform in the process.

The Hillary44 crowd really needs to let it go.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

So Hillary's presidency would have been slightly less disastrous than Obama's has been. Not hard to do.

[Vepres]

Hillary would've been demonized by the right every bit as bad as Obama (or Bill) was in exactly the same way

Perhaps more so. She has/would have had much higher negatives than Obama. At least most people like Obama personally, if not his policies. Imagine people liking neither!