Scott Peterson and the Death Penalty

[khirkhib]

I am against the death penalty under call conditions.  With Scott Peterson's verdict in it brings up the issue.  I think that he is guilty but beyond a resonable doubt.  I think he should be jailed but I guess there is that small chance that he didn't do it and because there is always that chance rather than letting people free I belive that states should not use the death penalty. 

Little Factoid:  Death sentences in states since 1977
Blue Kerry States: 48
Red Bush States: 889

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/executionmap_2004.gif

The only prolife/antiabortion people that I will even listen to, the only ones that aren't complete hypocrites, are the ones that are anti-abortion and anti-death penalty.

[Jake]

I don't think Peterson should get death, they can't prove beyond doubt.  The death penalty should be an option if you can definitely prove the person commited the act. Also, have to commit a bad crime.  Abortion doctors, mass murderers, terrorists, or serial rapists should be eligible.

[khirkhib]

See the thing is your not supposed to convict guilty at all if you can't prove something beyond a resonable doubt. 

[John Dibble]

See the thing is your not supposed to convict guilty at all if you can't prove something beyond a resonable doubt. 

There's a difference between reasonable doubt and beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[khirkhib]

Care to explicerate.

[Gabu]

Care to explicerate.

Reasonable doubt: "These two witnesses' stories contradict each other on where the accused was on the night of the murder.  How can we trust either of their testamonies?"

Any doubt: "These two witnesses' stories are exactly alike and show that the accused is definitely innocent, but how do we know that the president of Nigeria isn't secretly a friend of the accused and didn't secretly bribe both of these witnesses to say the same thing?"

A "reasonable doubt" is one that has a high enough probability to be true that it warrants further examination.

[John Dibble]

Care to explicerate.

Reasonable doubt: "These two witnesses' stories contradict each other on where the accused was on the night of the murder.  How can we trust either of their testamonies?"

Any doubt: "These two witnesses' stories are exactly alike and show that the accused is definitely innocent, but how do we know that the president of Nigeria isn't secretly a friend of the accused and didn't secretly bribe both of these witnesses to say the same thing?"

A "reasonable doubt" is one that has a high enough probability to be true that it warrants further examination.

Yeah, what he said. 'Beyond a shadow of a doubt' means that something is proveably a fact, and can't be contradicted. If you have video evidence, DNA evidence, multiple witnesses, ect. you pretty much don't have a case for innocence.

[??????????]

Execute that murderous animal. And yes you can be Anti Abortion and support the Death Penalty. Babies are innocent, MURDERERS ARE NOT! The bible condones the death penalty as well and Jesus even supported it.

[Lunar]

I'm uncomfortable with the entire concept of the state deciding who lives and who dies.

I'm not a militant against the death penalty, but just uncomfortable.

[Redefeatbush04]

Execute that murderous animal. And yes you can be Anti Abortion and support the Death Penalty. Babies are innocent, MURDERERS ARE NOT! The bible condones the death penalty as well and Jesus even supported it.

He who has no sin should cast the first stone

[patrick1]

He should die.  On a side note: Does anyone think if Laci Peterson was a black girl from Compton it would be getting this type of attention?  The media can be tremendously hypocritical in the stories it follows.  Black kids were killing each other at schools for decades but Columbine only got massive coverage because it was suburban white kids. 

[Josh/Devilman88]

if they know forsure he did it then yes. BUT if they don't then NO

[WalterMitty]

im 100% opposed to the death penalty.  although i must admit that peterson, being the smug little f'er that he is, makes it hard to oppose the death sentence.

but peterson is safe.  as we know, they mainly reserve the death penalty for black men and mexican nationals.

[Beaver]

The death penalty would certainly not be justified, because there was no physical evidence in the case.

[danwxman]

He should die.  On a side note: Does anyone think if Laci Peterson was a black girl from Compton it would be getting this type of attention?  The media can be tremendously hypocritical in the stories it follows.  Black kids were killing each other at schools for decades but Columbine only got massive coverage because it was suburban white kids. 

Ditto this post.

[??????????]

Execute that murderous animal. And yes you can be Anti Abortion and support the Death Penalty. Babies are innocent, MURDERERS ARE NOT! The bible condones the death penalty as well and Jesus even supported it.

He who has no sin should cast the first stone

True. But Jesus said the state has the right to 'draw the sword' and Christians are bound to respect that.

[WalterMitty]

Execute that murderous animal. And yes you can be Anti Abortion and support the Death Penalty. Babies are innocent, MURDERERS ARE NOT! The bible condones the death penalty as well and Jesus even supported it.

He who has no sin should cast the first stone

True. But Jesus said the state has the right to 'draw the sword' and Christians are bound to respect that.

we arent a christian state.

[Kodratos]

Execute that murderous animal. And yes you can be Anti Abortion and support the Death Penalty. Babies are innocent, MURDERERS ARE NOT! The bible condones the death penalty as well and Jesus even supported it.

He who has no sin should cast the first stone

True. But Jesus said the state has the right to 'draw the sword' and Christians are bound to respect that.

we arent a christian state.

He never said we were.

Jesus said "Give unto Ceaser what is Ceasers". And Ceaser ran an officially pagan state.

[WalterMitty]

Execute that murderous animal. And yes you can be Anti Abortion and support the Death Penalty. Babies are innocent, MURDERERS ARE NOT! The bible condones the death penalty as well and Jesus even supported it.

He who has no sin should cast the first stone

True. But Jesus said the state has the right to 'draw the sword' and Christians are bound to respect that.

we arent a christian state.

He never said we were.

Jesus said "Give unto Ceaser what is Ceasers". And Ceaser ran an officially pagan state.

no he didnt say that we were a christian state, but he was quoting jesus.  why should anything jesus said have any bearing on our laws whatsoever.

newsflash:  not everyone believes in jesus.

[Kodratos]

Execute that murderous animal. And yes you can be Anti Abortion and support the Death Penalty. Babies are innocent, MURDERERS ARE NOT! The bible condones the death penalty as well and Jesus even supported it.

He who has no sin should cast the first stone

True. But Jesus said the state has the right to 'draw the sword' and Christians are bound to respect that.

we arent a christian state.

He never said we were.

Jesus said "Give unto Ceaser what is Ceasers". And Ceaser ran an officially pagan state.

no he didnt say that we were a christian state, but he was quoting jesus.  why should anything jesus said have any bearing on our laws whatsoever.

newsflash:  not everyone believes in jesus.

He didn't say Jesus should have a bearing on our laws. Didn't you even bother to read the post he was responding to? Redefeatbush04 said "He who has no sin should cast the first stone". If anyone was implying that Jesus should have bearing on our laws it was him.

newsflash: I don't like it when words are put in to my mouth

[Redefeatbush04]

Execute that murderous animal. And yes you can be Anti Abortion and support the Death Penalty. Babies are innocent, MURDERERS ARE NOT! The bible condones the death penalty as well and Jesus even supported it.

He who has no sin should cast the first stone

True. But Jesus said the state has the right to 'draw the sword' and Christians are bound to respect that.

"You  have heard the commandment, 'An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.' But what I say to you is: offer no resistance to injury. When a person strikes you on the right cheek, turn and offer him the other."

[??????????]

Execute that murderous animal. And yes you can be Anti Abortion and support the Death Penalty. Babies are innocent, MURDERERS ARE NOT! The bible condones the death penalty as well and Jesus even supported it.

He who has no sin should cast the first stone

True. But Jesus said the state has the right to 'draw the sword' and Christians are bound to respect that.

"You  have heard the commandment, 'An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.' But what I say to you is: offer no resistance to injury. When a person strikes you on the right cheek, turn and offer him the other."

Yes, as an individual this is true. But it doesn't apply to the government.