Pennsylvania Governor 2010

[Ronnie]

Meehan is out of the race for Gov. "Seriously" considering a run for PA-7.

Woo

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Meehan is out of the race for Gov. "Seriously" considering a run for PA-7.

Woo

Damn, that means I'll need to change my sig, oh well was planning to do that anyway. Good news just the same.

[TeePee4Prez]

Meehan is out of the race for Gov. "Seriously" considering a run for PA-7.

Woo

Damn, that means I'll need to change my sig, oh well was planning to do that anyway. Good news just the same.

Unless Corbett picks Bruce Castor, which I don't think he will because of the bad blood from 2004, the Southeast will be an uphill climb for Corbett whom I will presume is the GOP nominee.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Meehan is out of the race for Gov. "Seriously" considering a run for PA-7.

Woo

Damn, that means I'll need to change my sig, oh well was planning to do that anyway. Good news just the same.

Unless Corbett picks Bruce Castor, which I don't think he will because of the bad blood from 2004, the Southeast will be an uphill climb for Corbett whom I will presume is the GOP nominee.

It is a shame, cause Corbett-Castor would be a dynamite couple, even more then Corbett-Meehan. I tend to agree that the Southeast will be difficult without a Strong Lt. Gov candidate from the Southeast.

[TeePee4Prez]

Meehan is out of the race for Gov. "Seriously" considering a run for PA-7.

Woo

Damn, that means I'll need to change my sig, oh well was planning to do that anyway. Good news just the same.

Unless Corbett picks Bruce Castor, which I don't think he will because of the bad blood from 2004, the Southeast will be an uphill climb for Corbett whom I will presume is the GOP nominee.

It is a shame, cause Corbett-Castor would be a dynamite couple, even more then Corbett-Meehan. I tend to agree that the Southeast will be difficult without a Strong Lt. Gov candidate from the Southeast.

Castor would be the only candidate who could put the increasingly liberal Montgomery County in play for the GOP.  I agree.  With Meehan and Castor likely off the ticket, the GOP better hope us Dems don't nominate Onorato or Wagner rather Tom Knox.  Me thinks it will be Onorato or Wagner and a black State Sen. or Rep. (Evans? LeAnna Washington?) from Philly will enter the race siphoning votes from Knox.

[TeePee4Prez]

Reason for my sig switch:

http://www.pa2010.com/2009/08/is-onorato-too-conservative-for-the-party-or-just-right-for-2010/

Yeah, me not gonna support the more conservative than I thought Onorato ESPECIALLY if Joe Hoeffel is running. 

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Without Phil, this page isn't get near enough activity as it rightfully deserves.

[TeePee4Prez]

Without Phil, this page isn't get near enough activity as it rightfully deserves.

We'll pickup the slack once the Dems settle with a candidate.  Don't you worry.   Hoeffel's looking good and I think he'll excite the base better than Onorato and Wagner.  Any thoughts?

[JohnnyLongtorso]

Without Phil, this page isn't get near enough activity as it rightfully deserves.

We'll pickup the slack once the Dems settle with a candidate.  Don't you worry.   Hoeffel's looking good and I think he'll excite the base better than Onorato and Wagner.  Any thoughts?

Yes. BAAAAAAAAARF!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Without Phil, this page isn't get near enough activity as it rightfully deserves.

We'll pickup the slack once the Dems settle with a candidate.  Don't you worry.   Hoeffel's looking good and I think he'll excite the base better than Onorato and Wagner.  Any thoughts?

Any chance that Deeds will hurt Wagner. One of the candidates could say don't pick him, he will end up like Deeds did in Virginia.

[TeePee4Prez]

Without Phil, this page isn't get near enough activity as it rightfully deserves.

We'll pickup the slack once the Dems settle with a candidate.  Don't you worry.   Hoeffel's looking good and I think he'll excite the base better than Onorato and Wagner.  Any thoughts?

Any chance that Deeds will hurt Wagner. One of the candidates could say don't pick him, he will end up like Deeds did in Virginia.

Wagner reminds me of a Deeds and would likely have a lot of trouble in the outer Southeastern PA counties.  IMO, stick with the base.  PA's Democrats are not in the Bob Casey mold nearly as much as they used to be, but there are still elements.  The liberal Republicans for the most part have switched to the Dems and the "Bob Casey Democrat" is most likely dead or already switched to the Republican party.  PA's political parties are clearly more polarized than they ever were.  The base tolerated Casey Jr. in 2006 because of Santorum.  I'm not sure they will tolerate Wagner in 2010 for Corbett. 

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

My, my how the tables have turned. I am bumping this because, I would like to dicuss the potential for the GOP to regain total control of the State legislature especially with Corbett the front runner for Governor, right now.

Also who will be the Dem nominee and who the Lt. Governor candidates wil be.

[TeePee4Prez]

My, my how the tables have turned. I am bumping this because, I would like to dicuss the potential for the GOP to regain total control of the State legislature especially with Corbett the front runner for Governor, right now.

Also who will be the Dem nominee and who the Lt. Governor candidates wil be.

I'm hoping Joe Hoeffel/Mayor of Scranton

Looking at the poll numbers, I'd say dump the Western PA Conservatives (Onorato, Wagner) and go with a liberal to get turnout other than Tom Knox who is basically PA's Corzine.  Joe Hoeffel is that candidate.  Going with a conservative, non-Southeastern PA Democrat can work if you can galvanize a liberal base against a particular GOP candidate and chalk up more than a few issues (see 2006 Senate), but I don't think Corbett will galvanize liberals against him as much as Santorum.  One should look at the areas of the state where Obama gained the most over Kerry and lost the most to realize this is no longer a Bob Casey-esque Democratic state.  Not to say there is no element of that, but it has greatly diminished since the 1980s and new votes are coming from the socially liberal areas west of Philadelphia.  I think this time around, caving in to social conservatives will be foolish. 

[TeePee4Prez]

This could be Christmas come early for us Democrats in Pennsylvania:

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10085/1045771-84.stm

Tom Corbett must have lost the memo saying PA has the 2nd largest number of seniors in the country plus we're not exactly a CfG state like South Carolina.  Me thinks he's worried about Rep. Sam Rohrer from the Reading area on the right for primary voters.  I think this would hurt him a lot in the General.  Any Dem can say Corbett is not only being a dick on health care, but wasting taxpayer dollars on a lawsuit.  Any thoughts?

[Rowan]

Any thoughts?

Corbett wins anyway.

[TeePee4Prez]

Any thoughts?

Corbett wins anyway.

I wouldn't coronate him just yet.  Remember, Corbett has the initial advantage of name ID.  If you look at the numbers closer, Onorato/Wagner are stronger in the West and Hoeffel is strongest in the Southeast where they at least have some name rec.  I'm saying if a Dem pounds Corbett on this issue the right way, they could close him pretty fast.  Not a bright move on Corbett's part joining this lawsuit for he was going to beat Rohrer anyway.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well we got Corbett versus Onorato. Certainly not what was intially expected last year when most thought Wagner was going to run away with the primary and the general election.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well I got what I wanted with regards West-East ticket. Cawley is from Bucks County. Probably matters little as most say but it certainly won't hurt to have a Governor from Allegheny and Lt. Governor from Bucks County.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Don't mean to bump this somewhat old thread but, was it surprising that this race became so boring, so quickly. Was it the year, the candidates or, or some combination of the two that made this one such a foregone conclusion, so early?

[Keystone Phil]

Don't mean to bump this somewhat old thread but, was it surprising that this race became so boring, so quickly. Was it the year, the candidates or, or some combination of the two that made this one such a foregone conclusion, so early?

Yeah, there really is very little excitement about this race. The media has been picking up on how dull the race has been, too.

The year plus the famous Pennsylvania Gubernatorial cycle has made this result seem like a foregone conclusion.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Don't mean to bump this somewhat old thread but, was it surprising that this race became so boring, so quickly. Was it the year, the candidates or, or some combination of the two that made this one such a foregone conclusion, so early?

Yeah, there really is very little excitement about this race. The media has been picking up on how dull the race has been, too.

The year plus the famous Pennsylvania Gubernatorial cycle has made this result seem like a foregone conclusion.

This is a travesty of the highest order. PA has to have the most important elections in the country.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

What are people going to say? "Oh, another poll showing Corbett up by 10. Thanks. I'll just put this in the linen closet with the rest of them."

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well what about the State legislature? Anyone been following the key races?

[Keystone Phil]

PA has to have the most important elections in the country.

Dull doesn't mean that it's not important.    And we clearly have the most important Senate race!

Well what about the State legislature? Anyone been following the key races?

We have quite a few hot races in the State House. The State Senate isn't going anywhere for awhile. The GOP has a strong hold on it. The State House, however, is in the Dems' hands but that will likely change after this election. Their lead is 104-99 right now. I don't exactly which seats we'll be getting but there are a bunch of Dem seats in play. I can't imagine being unable to find three seats to pick up while holding any vulnerable seats in this climate.