WV: Public Policy Polling: Raese overtakes Mr. Popular

[Oakvale]

Well, uh, this is bizzare.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I think everyone here is thinking this but it's worth writing down anyway... if Manchin actually were to lose, it's likely that these elections will be every bit as bad for the Democrats as the more fevered speculation suggests, as his only serious problem is the national picture. The same goes for a heavy Feingold defeat in Wisconsin.

[Associate Justice PiT]

They're finally learning that Democrats are liberal. 

Manchin isn't liberal on issues that WV voters don't like.

     Indeed, WV Democrats are a good fit for WV. National Democrats, on the other hand, are not. If Manchin loses, he will be a victim of the wave in the purest sense of the term.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Chaffee lost too with high approvals. Manchin certainly isn't immune to the same fate.

[tpfkaw]

Weld lost with approval higher than Manchin's.

[SPC]

Like the California and Wisconsin polls, I'm going to take this with a grain of salt.

[Brittain33]

Weld lost with approval higher than Manchin's.

Challenging an incumbent, though.

[J. J.]

I saw looking at PPP in RI's governor's race.

Either:

1.  PPP has some problems.

or

2.  The Democratic Party is about to collapse.

I'd bet on #1 for now.

[Citizen (The) Doctor]

I think I'm gonna need to see some more polls before I believe this one.

[Sam Spade]

I think everyone here is thinking this but it's worth writing down anyway... if Manchin actually were to lose, it's likely that these elections will be every bit as bad for the Democrats as the more fevered speculation suggests, as his only serious problem is the national picture. The same goes for a heavy Feingold defeat in Wisconsin.

Define heavy = more than 10%?

[SpiroT.Agnew]

I think I'm gonna need to see some more polls before I believe this one.

Same here, I still don't know what to believe about this one.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

I also have a suspicion that some of the PPP polls are getting juiced as a dailykos tool to try to wind up the Dem base and help narrow the enthusiasm gap.

The tinfoil hat is unbecoming.

[Free Palestine]

So, West Virginians don't want welfare anymore?

[Franzl]

So, West Virginians don't want welfare anymore?

Oh, they most certainly do....it's just that there are far important things to worry about right now, like having a Muslim in the White House for example.

[JohnnyLongtorso]

So, West Virginians don't want welfare anymore?

You say that as if Republicans don't appropriate pork. Has Ted Stevens faded so quickly from our memories?

[The Vorlon]

Those 59% approvals are much lower than we've seen for Manchin as of late. If they're truly accurate, well ... you know why Raese hopped into the lead in this poll.

PPP always shows lower approval ratings than almost anybody else for Senators and Governors.

Job approval generally correlates pretty well with elect-ability, but there have been some pretty amazing exceptions.

Grey Davis got re-elected Governor of California with an approval rating in the 30s (I forget the name, but the GOP's best candidate (Mayor of LA) got "tea-partied" by some very conservative primary opponent)

At the other end of the spectrum, George W. beat Ann Richards for the Texas Governorship when she had approvals in the mid 60s.

[You kip if you want to...]

Those 59% approvals are much lower than we've seen for Manchin as of late. If they're truly accurate, well ... you know why Raese hopped into the lead in this poll.

PPP always shows lower approval ratings than almost anybody else for Senators and Governors.

Job approval generally correlates pretty well with elect-ability, but there have been some pretty amazing exceptions.

Grey Davis got re-elected Governor of California with an approval rating in the 30s (I forget the name, but the GOP ran some total loon against him)

Like Reid-Angle in NV then?

[The Vorlon]

Those 59% approvals are much lower than we've seen for Manchin as of late. If they're truly accurate, well ... you know why Raese hopped into the lead in this poll.

PPP always shows lower approval ratings than almost anybody else for Senators and Governors.

Job approval generally correlates pretty well with elect-ability, but there have been some pretty amazing exceptions.

Grey Davis got re-elected Governor of California with an approval rating in the 30s (I forget the name, but the GOP ran some total loon against him)

Like Reid-Angle in NV then?

In Nevada and Illinois one of the candidates in each state will win and become a senator - Just learn to accept it.

The system is flawed, but we do the best we can.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Those 59% approvals are much lower than we've seen for Manchin as of late. If they're truly accurate, well ... you know why Raese hopped into the lead in this poll.

PPP always shows lower approval ratings than almost anybody else for Senators and Governors.

Job approval generally correlates pretty well with elect-ability, but there have been some pretty amazing exceptions.

Grey Davis got re-elected Governor of California with an approval rating in the 30s (I forget the name, but the GOP's best candidate (Mayor of LA) got "tea-partied" by some very conservative primary opponent)

At the other end of the spectrum, George W. beat Ann Richards for the Texas Governorship when she had approvals in the mid 60s.

     Yeah, Richard Riordan lost the primary to Bill Simon in a last-minute dash that made Christine O'Donnell's primary victory look like an epic crescendo in super-slow motion. I'm not completely sure Riordan would have won either, though. Gray Davis was the master of scorched earth campaigning, though, & ran negative ads against Riordan throughout the primary campaign.