Poll: Socialism viewed as positively as capitalism among Millenials

[Vepres]

I was talking of economic issues, not social ones.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

I was talking of economic issues, not social ones.

You think the two are separate? In theory perhaps, but in reality? In how 'politics' is viewed in the United States?

[Vepres]

I was talking of economic issues, not social ones.

You think the two are separate? In theory perhaps, but in reality? In how 'politics' is viewed in the United States?

In terms of how age affects attitudes during one's life, yeah.

[Mint]

When they're older they won't be so supportive of socialism. The baby boomers didn't remain so left-wing after all.

It is no more than a myth that they were left-wing to begin with.

+1

They were only left-wing compared to the generations that came before them.  The average baby-boomer would be more liberal than their parents, who in turn were more liberal than their grandparents.

I'm sure when we have children we will find some of their ideas to be radical and stupid.  And we will be called conservatives.

I'd dispute even that to the extent I can accept 'left' or 'right.' We have to remember the GI Generation had a staggering amount of open Socialists, Communists and Anarchists in addition to the overwhelming amount of mainstream New Deal Democrats in its ranks. Some of them might have drifted as they got older but if anything their children were more attracted to post-war Conservatism than they ever were.

[Free Trade is managed by the invisible hand.]

When they're older they won't be so supportive of socialism. The baby boomers didn't remain so left-wing after all.

It is no more than a myth that they were left-wing to begin with.

+1

They were only left-wing compared to the generations that came before them.  The average baby-boomer would be more liberal than their parents, who in turn were more liberal than their grandparents.

I'm sure when we have children we will find some of their ideas to be radical and stupid.  And we will be called conservatives.

I'd dispute even that to the extent I can accept 'left' or 'right.' We have to remember the GI Generation had a staggering amount of open Socialists, Communists and Anarchists in addition to the overwhelming amount of mainstream New Deal Democrats in its ranks. Some of them might have drifted as they got older but if anything their children were more attracted to post-war Conservatism than they ever were.

I hear people are starting to get more liberal as they age. The young are very passionate, but tend to mellow out as they get older. hmmmmm I guess in a few years I won't really care about.....any thing.

[War on Want]

When they're older they won't be so supportive of socialism. The baby boomers didn't remain so left-wing after all.

It is no more than a myth that they were left-wing to begin with.

+1

They were only left-wing compared to the generations that came before them.  The average baby-boomer would be more liberal than their parents, who in turn were more liberal than their grandparents.

I'm sure when we have children we will find some of their ideas to be radical and stupid.  And we will be called conservatives.

I'd dispute even that to the extent I can accept 'left' or 'right.' We have to remember the GI Generation had a staggering amount of open Socialists, Communists and Anarchists in addition to the overwhelming amount of mainstream New Deal Democrats in its ranks. Some of them might have drifted as they got older but if anything their children were more attracted to post-war Conservatism than they ever were.

I wouldn't say that it was close to staggering or even in the same ballpark. There were definitely large numbers of politically active Socialists compared to the present day. The old school Socialist organizations did form the foundation for the New Left. The SDS used to be a satelitte organization for an old Socialist group(LID) founded by Norman Thomas and Upton Sinclair before the anti-war movement started up.

[Mint]

Compared to most of the 20th century it was. You have to remember the CPUSA's membership peaked around 1944, for example.

[opebo]

The correct question to be asking, opebo, is - what happens when both fall apart, or to put it better, when the symbiotic relationship dooms both of them to fail?

I'm not particularly an optimist on this front, but there are a lot of possibilities.  I have my suspicions.

You're making several assumptions that I don't agree with, of course - that there is any socialism in the US, that there is some 'symbiotic relationship' between socialism and capitalism.  But I would certainly entertain the possibility that there is a perception that we have some socialism in the US and that there may be some symbiosis with capitalism.  Of course there isn't, but the perception that these have failed may well lead to the more overt fascism I think you anticipate.  In any case the only purpose to that fascim, just like the current system, will be to protect you and yours, so enjoy the bloodbath.  Its all for you.