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steve-o
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« on: November 11, 2004, 09:55:03 AM »

Hi all,
I am here to seek new ideas for alternatives agaisnt the electoral college.  I have a debate for school, and I thought it wouldn't hurt to seek out the views of people who are involved in constant discussion about governement.  Unfortunatly I was placed on the side against the electoral college.  So any views, links, or pieces of information owuld be greatly appreciated.  Thank you
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« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2004, 10:42:51 AM »

The most common other plans are a nation-wide popular vote for president, or a reform of the method by which electors are allocated.(would this count as an alterantive?) Some arguments can be found on this very site.

https://uselectionatlas.org/INFORMATION/INFORMATION/electcollege_procon.php
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2004, 06:18:33 PM »

I assume this is a public school? If so, just say, "it got Bush elected," and you'll get an A.
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Will F.D. People
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« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2004, 02:54:52 PM »

My first suggestion for reforming the electoral college is to go back to the way James Madison intended and throw DC's three votes out of it.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2004, 07:55:31 PM »

Each state's electoral vote count is equal to the number of House representatives plus the two senators.  A good modification to make it more democratic and better reflect the nation's population distribution would be to eliminate the Senate factor, reducing each state's EV number by two.
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2004, 04:52:21 PM »

My first suggestion for reforming the electoral college is to go back to the way James Madison intended and throw DC's three votes out of it.

Yeah, let's just get rid of Massachusetts too.
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2004, 04:54:42 PM »

No, let's get rid of DC. Or let Loudoun County into the union. One of the two.

The Senate factor is good.
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2004, 06:38:36 PM »

I say give the federal government rights over suffrage laws. Once you create national standards on this you can fairly adapt the EC. I'd make the electors fake and add a twenty point (or so) stipend for the national popular vote winner.
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« Reply #8 on: November 23, 2004, 01:47:16 PM »

As a counter-proposal to the current system in most states, suggest that we might want to have the big states go to the same system as is currently used by Maine and Nebraska (i.e. allocating two Presidental electors to the statewide winner, and the remainder to the winners of the congressional districts in the states).

This change would have a major impact on several states which Kerry carried by virtue of huge margins in a small number of congressional districts, and losses in a large number of districts.
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