Al Gore/Joe Lieberman vs. John McCain/John Hoeven 2004

[Bo]

Gore narrowly defeats Bush in 2000. Gore invades Afghanistan after 9/11 and successfully overthrows the Taliban and captures bin Laden, bringing him to trial in the U.S. The situation in Afghanistan is relatively stable in 2004 but the U.S. and N.A.T.O. still have several tens of thousands of troops there. Gore does not invade Iraq, but instead bombs it, which causes Saddam to allow the U.N. inspectors back in. In regards to the economy, Gore tries to pass a stimulus package in 2001 but the Republicans in Congress water it down so severely that it has little impact and is perceived as wasteful. However, Gore manages to pass tax cuts for the middle class in 2001. The economy remains in a jobless recovery until late 2003 as in RL. Unemployment is 5.2% on election day (in contrast to 5.4 in RL) and Gore has a net job gain of only 500,000, the lowest annual job creation rate in over 70 years. The Democrats renominate Gore and Lieberman in 2004, while the Republicans nominate John McCain, who picks John Hoeven as his VP. Everything else stays the same. How would this election turn out? Discuss, with maps.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Like the 2000 election all over again:

[Bo]

Like the 2000 election all over again:

Care to explain your reasoning? I think McCain would win NM, IA, and WI due to people's concerns over low job creation and due to Democratic fatigue after Democrats have been in the WH for 12 years. Also, Gore has no charisma and McCain will win some voters due to his moderate reputation and war hero status who might otherwise approve of Gore.

[Obnoxiously Slutty Girly Girl]

Like the 2000 election all over again:

Care to explain your reasoning? I think McCain would win NM, IA, and WI due to people's concerns over low job creation and due to Democratic fatigue after Democrats have been in the WH for 12 years. Also, Gore has no charisma and McCain will win some voters due to his moderate reputation and war hero status who might otherwise approve of Gore.

McCain wins in my scenario.

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[Bo]

Like the 2000 election all over again:

Care to explain your reasoning? I think McCain would win NM, IA, and WI due to people's concerns over low job creation and due to Democratic fatigue after Democrats have been in the WH for 12 years. Also, Gore has no charisma and McCain will win some voters due to his moderate reputation and war hero status who might otherwise approve of Gore.

McCain wins in my scenario.

I know that, but I think McCain would win by a larger margin due to the reasons I listed above.

[Derek]

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Republicans would've been even less motivated to vote for McCain if his running mate were a democrat.

[Bo]

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Republicans would've been even less motivated to vote for McCain if his running mate were a democrat.

First of all, John Hoeven is not a Democrat--he is a Republican. Secondly, this isn't a 2008 scenario. It is a scenario where Gore wins in 2000 and then McCain runs against him in 2004. Did you even read the scenario?