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« Reply #25 on: November 26, 2009, 06:25:15 PM »

Sarko is a wanna be facist. I suggest the French lock both him and Royal up in a dark dungeon somewhere and make Bayrou their President. That's what they should have done in 07.



Amongst the 3 leaders i'd agree, though i must say a Bayrou presidency would be a bit liek a Chirac one, rather boring at home, not constructive (we're really screwed in terms of good leaders here...).

And about the 'wanna be fascist'. Well he is someone who loves himself, who would love to be loved by the people, he has this trend yes, but once he meets reality, once he meets the beginning of an actual resistance within the population, oops, he retracts. What in practice makes that he isn't able to have a fascist trend, as long as people will protest at least. Just to make it clear.
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« Reply #26 on: November 26, 2009, 06:40:22 PM »

Conservative-nationalist in industry. Or even corporatist with "great capital", bankers and big industry.

Fiscally conservative on civil service.

Ready to anything on social issues (if he needs to put forward gay marriage in 2012, he's ready to do it; the same for euthanasia).

Zero in education matters, which is a big disappointment.
Zero in health and social security matters.

Just selfish in institutional matters (like many politicians, though...).

De facto nationalist in European matters (which isn't absolutely obvious due to same policy from UK, Germany, Italy, Poland, etc).

Tough in police and security matters.

Well, that's a post-modern cocktail of an uneducated French right.

So, not very bright, very very disappointing as the word "réforme" is now dead in France, unable to deliver anything really important, which is outrageous for a French rightist,
but not at all fascist, on the other hand (don't use this word so often, please...).

Democracy isn't threatened at all (please don't play as if we were in the 1930s...).
But cleverness, fairness, real reform are REALLY threatened now.

Juppé, reviens !
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« Reply #27 on: November 26, 2009, 07:27:55 PM »
« Edited: November 26, 2009, 08:36:50 PM by PASOK Leader Hashemite »

make Bayrou their President. That's what they should have done in 07.



I would like to kill you right now, fyi.

People ought to have a clue about Bayrou and what he represents before making asinine statements.

On a side note, one line from Sarkozy nous voila is great and sums him up well: "Tu sers tes petits amis, du Texas a Neuilly"

(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5noWWReXKk)
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« Reply #28 on: November 26, 2009, 08:32:35 PM »


HP indeed
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« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2009, 02:03:33 AM »

Zero in health and social security matters.

Franchise médicale and raising the time of contribution for old-age pensions (this one isn't really bad, but things aren't so simple as he seems to believe).
There are some other examples but I don't recall all of them (if I did, I'd make a nervous breakdown). However, you're probably right in saying that the worst of sarkozysm is in security and immigration issues.
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« Reply #30 on: November 27, 2009, 07:23:53 AM »

Zero in health and social security matters.

Franchise médicale and raising the time of contribution for old-age pensions (this one isn't really bad, but things aren't so simple as he seems to believe).
There are some other examples but I don't recall all of them (if I did, I'd make a nervous breakdown). However, you're probably right in saying that the worst of sarkozysm is in security and immigration issues.

When I've written "zero", it wasn't very clear, but it was a way to say that, in fact, Sarkozy doesn't bother about health finances and about pensions: this is not in his mind, il s'en fout. Hence, there are just small measures that aren't at all efficient or which are even counter-productive.

What's amazing about French presidents is that, now, we 've only got guys who have a "fine" -i.e. interesting, suspenseful, full of stories- political career (and a "fine" way to manage it) but who are big disappointments, especially once in supreme power: Mitterrand, Chirac, Sarkozy.
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« Reply #31 on: November 27, 2009, 10:19:33 AM »
« Edited: November 27, 2009, 10:21:49 AM by Benwah »

In short, who cares of his rightist reforms since he doesn't achieve them further than 1/3 for each, not to say less for some. The biggest ones he passed (paquet fiscal and heritage), when has it been? 2 months after being elected, and one month after legislatives, and in a special parliamentary sessions in summer, while his plain momentum and while all French just don't care about politics. After, not a lot of things passed.

And as i said at the beginning, he hasn't a clue about ideologies and I think he doesn't want to care thinking all of this is doomed, upside down and is no more what matters (on that realm i would agree), he might amuse himself of people placing him here or there on the political lines since it, he's a plain pragmatic who loves performance before everything but who also love to be loved. So if he feels he's no more loved, he stops, and do otherwise. All of this is pretty childish, yes, politics, and especially this job shouldn't be his place. But overall, I think Sarkozy is just a symptom of what becomes our society.

And about the word "réforme", yes, that turns really ridiculous now. All the govt has this word on his mouth on TV and in media in general, but, there is nothing! there is no reform! that's just one more fooling, but they keep continue "we reform, we have to reform...". Couet method. As a lot of things nowadays "réformes" mainly only exist in medias. Fools fooling. What a poor game.
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« Reply #32 on: November 27, 2009, 10:31:03 AM »

In short, who cares of his rightist reforms since he doesn't achieve them further than 1/3 for each, not to say less for some. The biggest ones he passed (paquet fiscal and heritage), when has it been? 2 months after being elected, and one month after legislatives, and in a special parliamentary sessions in summer, while his plain momentum and while all French just don't care about politics. After, not a lot of things passed.

And as i said at the beginning, he hasn't a clue about ideologies and I think he doesn't want to care thinking all of this is doomed, upside down and is no more what matters (on that realm i would agree), he might amuse himself of people placing him here or there on the political lines since it, he's a plain pragmatic who loves performance before everything but who also love to be loved. So if he feels he's no more loved, he stops, and do otherwise. All of this is pretty childish, yes, politics, and especially this job shouldn't be his place. But overall, I think Sarkozy is just a symptom of what becomes our society.


I must say, Benoît, that I plainly agree with you, 100%.
That's not so often Wink
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« Reply #33 on: December 20, 2009, 03:42:24 PM »

FF.
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« Reply #34 on: December 20, 2009, 03:44:57 PM »

Stop. Now. Stop. Stop. Now.
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« Reply #35 on: December 21, 2009, 05:49:35 PM »


There's a thing in this country called freedom of speech, and I think Sarkozy is a FF.
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