A thought...

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Can we have a rule that the candidate declaration thread and new declaration thread are only for those 2 things?  I know it's fun and nice to have conversations, but it makes it a real pain to try to go through the thread when looking to see who's declared for a position / verify somebody's a registered voter.

Just a thought.

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

I agree 100 % with the Governor. The thread is not for endorsments or comments to candidates, but just for candidate declataration. It will be a lot harder for the SoFA and the Governors to find the candidates they're suppose to put on the ballots if they have to scroll through page after page of unnecessary  comments.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Interesting that you mention it, because if you look on the first page of the New Register Thread, you see this post:

Hi,
Sorry, I accidentally deleted the new register thread.  I'll see if there is any way to ressurrect...  My apologies.
Dave

I think this is a blessing in disguise.  The old thread was getting too heavy.  We really need a Registration thread with REGISTRATIONS ONLY and a Registration comments thread where people can welcome new folks, etc.

[Marokai Backbeat]

While I understand and generally agree, it's not really that difficult. I mean, you'd have to be supremely lazy to not be able to spend 5 minutes just skimming over a few pages.

[DownWithTheLeft]

While I understand and generally agree, it's not really that difficult. I mean, you'd have to be supremely lazy to not be able to spend 5 minutes just skimming over a few pages.

I was thinking the same thing, and frankly its not like people don't post it in 100 places when they are running anyway.  Did anyone really need to read the candidate declaration thread to see the MasterJedi/AndrewCT ticket?  Does anyone not know Franzl is running for president?  In today's Atlasia the thread is merely a formality.

If the SoFA is really confused they could even consult the NWA table of who is running

[Badger]

I agree with Inks and Swedish Cheese (not that I've been 100% immune from posting on the thread occassionally myself).

[Ebowed]

Can we have a rule that the candidate declaration thread and new declaration thread are only for those 2 things?

No.

[Meeker]

Ok guys, the last three pages of the New Register thread have been absolutely ridiculous. I wasn't in favor of any sort of restrictions before but I'm quickly changing my mind.

[Smid]

I think it makes sense to impose this restriction. After all, we have a rule against campaigning in the voting booth, so it's really not that hard to extend that restriction.

[Ebowed]

I think it makes sense to impose this restriction.

How do you suggest it would be enforced?

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

I think it makes sense to impose this restriction.

How do you suggest it would be enforced?

The same way no campaigning in voting threads are enforced. There's no need to make things more complicated than they are.

[Ebowed]

I think it makes sense to impose this restriction.

How do you suggest it would be enforced?

The same way no campaigning in voting threads are enforced. There's no need to make things more complicated than they are.

People don't campaign in the voting booth because their vote will not count if they do.

There is no such incentive to not reply to posts in the registration thread, and I challenge you to come up with a way of actually enforcing this other than making the New Register Thread require moderator approval for any replies.  Do we really need that?

[Swedish Rainbow Capitalist Cheese]

I think it makes sense to impose this restriction.

How do you suggest it would be enforced?

The same way no campaigning in voting threads are enforced. There's no need to make things more complicated than they are.

People don't campaign in the voting booth because their vote will not count if they do.

There is no such incentive to not reply to posts in the registration thread, and I challenge you to come up with a way of actually enforcing this other than making the New Register Thread require moderator approval for any replies.  Do we really need that?

I'd suggest you give someone a warning if they break the rule, if they still keeps posting after that, they'll recieve a month's voting ban. That should be enough to keep people from spamming it with unecessary posts. 

[Ebowed]

I'd suggest you give someone a warning if they break the rule, if they still keeps posting after that, they'll recieve a month's voting ban. That should be enough to keep people from spamming it with unecessary posts. 

Yeah, that's not gonna happen.

It's generally a good rule of thumb to just not pass laws that you can't enforce.

[Meeker]

I'd suggest you give someone a warning if they break the rule, if they still keeps posting after that, they'll recieve a month's voting ban. That should be enough to keep people from spamming it with unecessary posts. 

Yeah, that's not gonna happen.

It's generally a good rule of thumb to just not pass laws that you can't enforce.

How is that unenforceable? You post a non-registering post in the thread and you don't get to vote in the next election. Seems pretty simple to me.

[Ebowed]

I'd suggest you give someone a warning if they break the rule, if they still keeps posting after that, they'll recieve a month's voting ban. That should be enough to keep people from spamming it with unecessary posts. 

Yeah, that's not gonna happen.

It's generally a good rule of thumb to just not pass laws that you can't enforce.

How is that unenforceable? You post a non-registering post in the thread and you don't get to vote in the next election. Seems pretty simple to me.

It's completely draconian and an exaggerated response considering what we are dealing with here.  I guess it would increase the number of AG cases and Court proceedings, which might be fun for everyone else to watch, but I imagine it would get tiresome quickly.

[Meeker]

I'd suggest you give someone a warning if they break the rule, if they still keeps posting after that, they'll recieve a month's voting ban. That should be enough to keep people from spamming it with unecessary posts. 

Yeah, that's not gonna happen.

It's generally a good rule of thumb to just not pass laws that you can't enforce.

How is that unenforceable? You post a non-registering post in the thread and you don't get to vote in the next election. Seems pretty simple to me.

It's completely draconian and an exaggerated response considering what we are dealing with here.  I guess it would increase the number of AG cases and Court proceedings, which might be fun for everyone else to watch, but I imagine it would get tiresome quickly.

Considering it's the only real power the government has to enforce any sort of rule (that and taking away office holding privileges) I don't really see how it's that extreme. Certainly no more extreme than the ban on campaigning in the voting booth IMO.

And I highly doubt we'd have very many court cases as a result of it. People would stop posting in the thread for non-registering purposes pretty quickly once they were aware it wasn't allowed, just as they know not to post in the voting booth threads right now.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Or get the mods on board with the proposal - you post something that shouldn't be there, it gets deleted - simple as that.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I still think this sort of solution is unnecessary and as Ebowed says, draconian. Yes we shouldn't clutter the registration thread, and we should warn people against it, but there's no reason to heavily restrict what can or can't be said.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Really, people need to restrain from posting there voluntarily. Any attempt to legislate a restriction would, as a result of the limited range of penalties afforded in Atlasia, be either ineffective or draconian.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

     Really, people need to restrain from posting there voluntarily. Any attempt to legislate a restriction would, as a result of the limited range of penalties afforded in Atlasia, be either ineffective or draconian.

Not if the mods agree to simply just delete posts.

[Хahar 🤔]

I don't think there's a problem. I'll change my mind if Earl complains.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     Really, people need to restrain from posting there voluntarily. Any attempt to legislate a restriction would, as a result of the limited range of penalties afforded in Atlasia, be either ineffective or draconian.

Not if the mods agree to simply just delete posts.

     Well the mods have lives outside of the forum. I don't think we should demand that they police the New Register & Candidate Declaration threads, though I must say that that is a much better idea than trying to make it some sort of crime to make posts in those threads that do not use them for their intended purposes.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

     Really, people need to restrain from posting there voluntarily. Any attempt to legislate a restriction would, as a result of the limited range of penalties afforded in Atlasia, be either ineffective or draconian.

Not if the mods agree to simply just delete posts.

     Well the mods have lives outside of the forum. I don't think we should demand that they police the New Register & Candidate Declaration threads, though I must say that that is a much better idea than trying to make it some sort of crime to make posts in those threads that do not use them for their intended purposes.

I understand that - but if they cracked down and purged extraneous posts once a day for a week, I think people would get the picture and would stop on heir own.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Again - throwing this out there as an idea - I had to sort through like 8 pages of stuff to find candidates who declared in the bast 3 weeks.