Past French prez elections today: President Benoît HAMON, 1969-1974
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« on: September 21, 2009, 04:44:36 AM »
« edited: September 23, 2009, 03:02:08 AM by big bad fab »

1969... a weird election in RL.

This is how I think it could be nowadays:

François Fillon (<-> Georges Pompidou, recent Prime minister, mainstream gaullist with a small liberal stance and social negotiating skills, long behind the "great chief")

Jean Arthuis (<-> Alain Poher, centrist senator for a long time, not very well known but quite influential among the centre-right, cleverer than thought)

Vincent Peillon (<-> Gaston Defferre, young reformist socialist, hailed by some medias, acting outside the big socialist apparatus)

André Gerin (<-> Jacques Duclos, old orthodox communist leader, now sidelined)

Benoît Hamon (<-> Michel Rocard, young reformist from the left of the French socialism, trying to use a certain revolutionary spirit)

Olivier Besancenot (<-> Alain Krivine, leader of the trotskyite leftism)

Antoine Waechter (<-> Louis Ducatel, a guy initially positioned in a part of the centre -radical or Green- turned more rightist with time, "old" local elected politician but viewed as a bit ridiculous in the national medias)

Poor Rocard, you may say, but Rocard 1969 wasn't Rocard 1985 or 1988.
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« Reply #1 on: September 21, 2009, 04:45:51 AM »

The first round is open !

You've got 7 votes, that you must split like this, and only like this:
4 - 2 - 1.
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« Reply #2 on: September 21, 2009, 04:46:20 AM »

4 votes for Fillon
2 votes for Arthuis
1 vote for Waechter
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« Reply #3 on: September 21, 2009, 06:19:59 AM »

4 for Hamon
2 for Peillon
1 for Fillon

Nice rime, no ? Tongue
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« Reply #4 on: September 21, 2009, 06:46:39 AM »

4 for Hamon
2 for Peillon
1 for Fillon

Nice rime, no ? Tongue
Yep ! It reminds me of the Guignols in 1994, when Rocard was in the mess of preparing European elections and the PS list: "un Huchon, un Mélenchon, un Huchon, un Mélenchon"...

Your vote surprises me: Hamon over Peillon ?
Peillon is quite clever and more on the left than Royal or Hollande (or DSK).
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« Reply #5 on: September 21, 2009, 10:29:48 AM »

4 for Hamon
2 for Peillon
1 for Fillon

Nice rime, no ? Tongue
Yep ! It reminds me of the Guignols in 1994, when Rocard was in the mess of preparing European elections and the PS list: "un Huchon, un Mélenchon, un Huchon, un Mélenchon"...

Your vote surprises me: Hamon over Peillon ?
Peillon is quite clever and more on the left than Royal or Hollande (or DSK).

I don't like Hamon so much. My vote was mostly for Rocard than for him (even the "leftist" "1969-style" Rocard).
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« Reply #6 on: September 21, 2009, 12:19:27 PM »

4 Fillon
2 Arthuis
1 Hamon (Breton solidarity Smiley)
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« Reply #7 on: September 21, 2009, 06:49:10 PM »

4 Hamot
2 Besancenot
1 Gerin
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« Reply #8 on: September 22, 2009, 02:03:49 AM »

Part Two:
FRENCH PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION "à la 1969"
Official results of the first round

35 votes
Benoît Hamon 11 votes (31.4%)
François Fillon 9 votes (25.7%)

Vincent Peillon 6 votes (17.1%)
Jean Arthuis 5 votes (14.3%)
Olivier Besancenot 2 votes (5.7%)
Antoine Waechter 1 vote (2.9%)
André Gerin 1 vote (2.9%)

Second round

2 candidates:

François Fillon (<-> Georges Pompidou, recent Prime minister, mainstream gaullist with a small liberal stance and social negotiating skills, long behind the "great chief")

Jean Arthuis (<-> Alain Poher, centrist senator for a long time, not very well known but quite influential among the centre-right, cleverer than thought)

Vincent Peillon (<-> Gaston Defferre, young reformist socialist, hailed by some medias, acting outside the big socialist apparatus)

André Gerin (<-> Jacques Duclos, old orthodox communist leader, now sidelined)


Benoît Hamon (<-> Michel Rocard, young reformist from the left of the French socialism, trying to use a certain revolutionary spirit)

Olivier Besancenot (<-> Alain Krivine, leader of the trotskyite leftism)

Antoine Waechter (<-> Louis Ducatel, a guy initially positioned in a part of the centre -radical or Green- turned more rightist with time, "old" local elected politician but viewed as a bit ridiculous in the national medias)

Vote is open for the second round. You have 2 votes, that you may cast as you wish: 2-0 or 1-1.
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« Reply #9 on: September 22, 2009, 02:08:20 AM »

Benoît Hamon is the surprising winner of the first round. Again, the official candidate of the PS doesn't make it to the runoff.

Really on the left of the PS, he will be opposed to François Fillon, from the mainstream right, who has prevailed over Jean Arthuis, a bit surprisingly too, given Jean-Christophe Lagarde's victory in 1965. But the men are quite different.

As for me, I give my 2 votes to François Fillon.
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« Reply #10 on: September 22, 2009, 06:18:30 AM »

2 for Hamon.

Nice electoral system. Wink
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« Reply #11 on: September 22, 2009, 06:50:53 AM »

2 votes for François Fillon
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« Reply #12 on: September 22, 2009, 03:09:04 PM »

What do you think I should do ?

Have Fillon elected because he is the oldest ?

Try to have someone able to vote to break our tie ?
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« Reply #13 on: September 22, 2009, 06:41:28 PM »

Me!

2 for Hamon
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« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2009, 12:49:28 AM »

Try to have someone able to vote to break our tie ?

We have.
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« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2009, 03:00:07 AM »

Part Two:
FRENCH PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION "à la 1969"
Official results of the first round

5 voters
Benoît Hamon 11 votes (31.4%)
François Fillon 9 votes (25.7%)

Vincent Peillon 6 votes (17.1%)
Jean Arthuis 5 votes (14.3%)
Olivier Besancenot 2 votes (5.7%)
Antoine Waechter 1 vote (2.9%)
André Gerin 1 vote (2.9%)

Official results of the second round

5 voters
Benoît Hamon 6 votes (60.0%)
François Fillon 4 votes (40.0%)

In a "classic" left/right fight, Benoît Hamon is elected the second French president of the current Republic, despite provisional results hastily and oddly published by the Constitutional Council (i.e. me...) that were less clear than the majority he eventually gathered on his name.
Vincent Peillon may really regret he didn't prevail in the first round.



Vive la République ! Vive la France !
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« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2009, 03:17:47 AM »

Benoît Hamon disappointed many of his voters by not reforming the Constitution and becoming a rather classic centralist and powerful president.

However, he kept some of his former habits, especially the one of driving his own motorbike. During one of his rides, he had an accident and died from his injuries at the hospital of La Pitié-Salpêtrière, where he was hastily brought.

After a short interim of Gérard LARCHER, Senate's president, a new election had to be organized.
The PS first secretary, who has more and more contested the President, Martine Aubry is candidate.
The PCF, heavily divided on the President's actions and towards the PS, is unable to put forward one candidate and prefers to stick to Aubry.

On the right, after Gérard Larcher says he wishes to remain in the Senate, a far safer position, the UDF picks Jean-Louis Borloo, a reformist with a quite modern image, while the RPR picks Michel Barnier, from the social and environmental wing of the party.
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« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2009, 11:15:12 AM »

Benoît Hamon disappointed many of his voters by not reforming the Constitution and becoming a rather classic centralist and powerful president.

However, he kept some of his former habits, especially the one of driving his own motorbike. During one of his rides, he had an accident and died from his injuries at the hospital of La Pitié-Salpêtrière, where he was hastily brought.

After a short interim of Gérard LARCHER, Senate's president, a new election had to be organized.
The PS first secretary, who has more and more contested the President, Martine Aubry is candidate.
The PCF, heavily divided on the President's actions and towards the PS, is unable to put forward one candidate and prefers to stick to Aubry.

On the right, after Gérard Larcher says he wishes to remain in the Senate, a far safer position, the UDF picks Jean-Louis Borloo, a reformist with a quite modern image, while the RPR picks Michel Barnier, from the social and environmental wing of the party.

Great story. You have a lot of imagination. Smiley
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« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2009, 11:19:43 AM »

Benoît Hamon disappointed many of his voters by not reforming the Constitution and becoming a rather classic centralist and powerful president.

However, he kept some of his former habits, especially the one of driving his own motorbike. During one of his rides, he had an accident and died from his injuries at the hospital of La Pitié-Salpêtrière, where he was hastily brought.

After a short interim of Gérard LARCHER, Senate's president, a new election had to be organized.
The PS first secretary, who has more and more contested the President, Martine Aubry is candidate.
The PCF, heavily divided on the President's actions and towards the PS, is unable to put forward one candidate and prefers to stick to Aubry.

On the right, after Gérard Larcher says he wishes to remain in the Senate, a far safer position, the UDF picks Jean-Louis Borloo, a reformist with a quite modern image, while the RPR picks Michel Barnier, from the social and environmental wing of the party.

Great story. You have a lot of imagination. Smiley

Just to stick to reality, sort of...
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« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2009, 11:36:29 AM »

Benoît Hamon disappointed many of his voters by not reforming the Constitution and becoming a rather classic centralist and powerful president.

However, he kept some of his former habits, especially the one of driving his own motorbike. During one of his rides, he had an accident and died from his injuries at the hospital of La Pitié-Salpêtrière, where he was hastily brought.

After a short interim of Gérard LARCHER, Senate's president, a new election had to be organized.
The PS first secretary, who has more and more contested the President, Martine Aubry is candidate.
The PCF, heavily divided on the President's actions and towards the PS, is unable to put forward one candidate and prefers to stick to Aubry.

On the right, after Gérard Larcher says he wishes to remain in the Senate, a far safer position, the UDF picks Jean-Louis Borloo, a reformist with a quite modern image, while the RPR picks Michel Barnier, from the social and environmental wing of the party.

Great story. You have a lot of imagination. Smiley

Just to stick to reality, sort of...

Indeed, that's not easy. Wink
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