leftwing dictators, bothside dictators, and rightwing dictators

[politicaladdict]

This is just all for fun. Which would be rightwing dictators, leftwing dictators or bothside dictators and maybe write why?

My list of leftwing dictators
Most communist obviously
such as
Mao Zedong(China)
Kim Jong-Il(North Korea)
Fidel Castro(Cuba)
Josef Stalin(USSR) and more
Robert Mugabi(Zimbabwe)
Saddam Hussein(Iraq)
Bashar al-Assad(Syria)
Slobodan Milošević(Yugoslavia)
Leonid Brezhnev(USSR)
Than Shwe(Burma)
Moammar Gadhafi(Libya)
Aleksandr Lukashenko(Belarus)

My list of bothside dictators
Adolf Hitler(Germany)
Benito Mussolini(Italy)
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei(Iran)
and more

My list of rightwing dictators
Most military-dictatorship
Augusto Pinochet(Chile)
Franco Francsico(Spain)
António de Oliveira Salazar(Portugal)
Ioannis Metaxas(Greece)
Oliver Cromwell(England)
Pervez Musharraf(Pakistan)

People can post more and please reasons why? And if you wanna post why I put a certain one in that particular category then just ask and I'll tell you.

[Sewer]

My list of leftwing dictators

My list of bothside dictators
Mao Zedong(China)
Kim Jong-Il(North Korea)
Fidel Castro(Cuba)
Josef Stalin(USSR) and more
Robert Mugabi(Zimbabwe)
Saddam Hussein(Iraq)
Bashar al-Assad(Syria)
Slobodan Milošević(Yugoslavia)
Leonid Brezhnev(USSR)
Than Shwe(Burma)
Moammar Gadhafi(Libya)
Aleksandr Lukashenko(Belarus)

My list of rightwing dictators
Most military-dictatorship
Augusto Pinochet(Chile)
Franco Francsico(Spain)
António de Oliveira Salazar(Portugal)
Ioannis Metaxas(Greece)
Oliver Cromwell(England)
Pervez Musharraf(Pakistan)
Adolf Hitler(Germany)
Benito Mussolini(Italy)
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei(Iran)

[Хahar 🤔]

The political spectrum is a tool with limited application, and it loses all function when applied to leaders operating outside normal democratic procedure. Was Brezhnev left-wing or right-wing? Who knows? More importantly, who cares?

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My list of dictators

Mao Zedong(China)
Kim Jong-Il(North Korea)
Fidel Castro(Cuba)
Josef Stalin(USSR) and more
Robert Mugabe(Zimbabwe)
Saddam Hussein(Iraq)
Bashar al-Assad(Syria)
Slobodan Milošević(Yugoslavia)
Leonid Brezhnev(USSR)
Than Shwe(Burma)
Moammar Gadhafi(Libya)
Aleksandr Lukashenko(Belarus)
Adolf Hitler(Germany)
Benito Mussolini(Italy)
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei(Iran)
Augusto Pinochet(Chile)
Francisco Franco(Spain)
António de Oliveira Salazar(Portugal)
Ioannis Metaxas(Greece)
Oliver Cromwell(England)
Pervez Musharraf(Pakistan)

100% accurate

[politicaladdict]

My list of leftwing dictators

My list of bothside dictators
Mao Zedong(China)
Kim Jong-Il(North Korea)
Fidel Castro(Cuba)
Josef Stalin(USSR) and more
Robert Mugabi(Zimbabwe)
Saddam Hussein(Iraq)
Bashar al-Assad(Syria)
Slobodan Milošević(Yugoslavia)
Leonid Brezhnev(USSR)
Than Shwe(Burma)
Moammar Gadhafi(Libya)
Aleksandr Lukashenko(Belarus)

My list of rightwing dictators
Most military-dictatorship
Augusto Pinochet(Chile)
Franco Francsico(Spain)
António de Oliveira Salazar(Portugal)
Ioannis Metaxas(Greece)
Oliver Cromwell(England)
Pervez Musharraf(Pakistan)
Adolf Hitler(Germany)
Benito Mussolini(Italy)
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei(Iran)

What do most dictators and liberals have in common; they both like to nationalize everything, like to silence free speech(???fairness-doctrine???), hate the second amendement no dictator wants the common people to have guns and can't have that kind of violence toward a great leader, a huge number hated christianity atleast to an extent, wanna establish some kind of police-force(???Civilian National Security Force???) and sometimes get elected to to take advantage of a crisis. HHHM... sound a little like HITLER!

Just rightwing? Adolf Hitler wasn't quite a rightwing and Benito Mussolini hated christianity, although eventually eased to get Catholic support and was an atheist who eventually became a Catholic. Used to be part of a socialist party and Fascism and Nazism promoted a mixture of Capitalism and Socialism of STATE-CONTROLLED INDUSTRIES  and controlled businesses like so-called-capitalist China. I think Hitler burned bibles and such and was anti-semitic, and I don't know about you but I LIKE ISRAEL unlike somebody else.

Most communist are leftwing because they got humanist philosophies look at all these Marxist professors  in these class-rooms who vote democrat like Bill Ayers. Although communist seem to be socially-conservative on issues such as pornography and sexuality and claims it's because it hurts party values, even atheist believe in moral values, maybe somebody can learn from them?

and Iranian's "Supreme Leader" although ultra conservative on religeous principles, I hate the guy more than liberals do, and he's muslim. Don't liberals love muslims? And Iran has a PLANNED-ECONOMY again not free-market RIGHTWING market.

rightwing dictators even they nationalize everything I still put them because there
Ultra religeous and military and such.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

[politicaladdict]

Oh, it's you and you in your pictures, again!

So, are those pictures before and after surgery?

[Earth]

It's funny to me that, for the most part, all "left wing" entails with dictators is an iron economic grip.

[politicaladdict]

It's funny to me that, for the most part, all "left wing" entails with dictators is an iron economic grip.

Atheist dictators are worse than God-believing dictators.

For example, communists(leftwing philosophy), you'd probably hear that they have the worse dictatorships with famine and Stalin being by far the worse dictator in all of recorded history, unless you include Hitler and his vile reig
n racism.

Atheism developed by Charles Darwin is considered leftwing because it's modern philosophy. Communism as result came about due to atheism, when Karl Marx decided to believe that without God it was a struggle with the middle-class. As a result, this philosophy came to the concept of nationalizing land and industry to preserve to the state for everyone to be happy. We all know the results was long famines, no religion and brutality.

Capitalism, even though, created by men, was inspired by being faithful to God, such as working and making money.
Not socialism or nationalizing things to the state that would probably know nothing about it, which is taking away from a bunch of entities that worked and to put it into one entity.

Alot of fascism was inspired from communism such as a single-party-state and alot of fascists had post-christian philosophies and alot were marxist at one point, aswell and intended at one point persecute chrstians. The only exception is when nationalist Catholics developed some form of fascism an order to promote morality such as Franco Francisco of Spain.

So yeah... the bottom line is leftwing philosophy has worse economic systems such as Robert Mugabi of Zimbabwe.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Atheism developed by Charles Darwin

Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

I think we have a new winner for stupidest thing ever said on the forum not in jest.

[politicaladdict]

Atheism developed by Charles Darwin

Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow. Wow.

I think we have a new winner for stupidest thing ever said on the forum not in jest.

Well, excuse me for making a mistake! You probably know more about atheism than I do and you probably know more about communism, aswell... I'm I right?

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Anyone who has read the entire wikipedia article on Communism or atheism clearly knows more about both than you do. Actually even people who have just read the summary paragraph.

[politicaladdict]

Anyone who has read the entire wikipedia article on Communism or atheism clearly knows more about both than you do. Actually even people who have just read the summary paragraph.

Yeah, probably written BY wikipedia who seem to be in the tank for Obama.

I'm I wrong on anything when it comes to communism? Please, correct me?

I'm I wrong on the idea that Marx borrowed atheism to promote his theory?

[Mechaman]

Guys, dictators are neither left wing or right wing, they fall into the dick wing.

[Gustaf]

Mainstream left and right is incompatible with dictatorships, obviously.

Left and right are really vague terms though. Certain elements of left and right are fundamentally incompatible with a dictatorship (such as anarchism on the left and liberalism on the right).

Generally, it seems to me that the idea of economic freedom makes a dictatorship at the very least hard to maintain. If you don't control peoples' money it is difficult to maintain the political control required to run a dictatorship. Therefore, economically right-winged dictatorships, in the sense of being free market-oriented is something of a paradox.

(and please don't tell me China is a free market country. It's not. I've been there, I have a girlfriend with Chinese roots, so I know a little bit about it. That entire idea is just a popular catch-phrase with no base in reality.)

That's not really to say that dictatorships must have a left-winged economic policy either. Most dictatorships control the economy in order to enrich a tiny elite at the top. That isn't the official policy of any ideology, naturally.

It always depends on what you associate with left and right and what kind of left and right you're talking about.

[politicaladdict]

I'm not saying China is a real free-market  capitalistic system. They're more capitalist in the sense of allowing some businesses to run independently than the former USSR which is the reason why they collapsed. China(a constitutionally communist state) is giving tax-breaks to businesses and on there way of getting off the dollar because our very idiotic congress and president aren't acting like capitalists themselves by controlling banks raising taxes. Seems like China's atleast acting more capitalist than we are, right now.

[Hash]

Wow. Wow. This guy is dumber than I would have thought.

On a side note, you idiot, it's Francisco Franco. Not Franco Francisco.

[JSojourner]

Wow. Wow. This guy is dumber than I would have thought.

On a side note, you idiot, it's Francisco Franco. Not Franco Francisco.

I thought it was Franco Harris.  Didn't he use Franco's Italian Army to stage a coup in Spain? 

[Хahar 🤔]

Mainstream left and right is incompatible with dictatorships, obviously.

Left and right are really vague terms though. Certain elements of left and right are fundamentally incompatible with a dictatorship (such as anarchism on the left and liberalism on the right).

Generally, it seems to me that the idea of economic freedom makes a dictatorship at the very least hard to maintain. If you don't control peoples' money it is difficult to maintain the political control required to run a dictatorship. Therefore, economically right-winged dictatorships, in the sense of being free market-oriented is something of a paradox.

(and please don't tell me China is a free market country. It's not. I've been there, I have a girlfriend with Chinese roots, so I know a little bit about it. That entire idea is just a popular catch-phrase with no base in reality.)

That's not really to say that dictatorships must have a left-winged economic policy either. Most dictatorships control the economy in order to enrich a tiny elite at the top. That isn't the official policy of any ideology, naturally.

It always depends on what you associate with left and right and what kind of left and right you're talking about.

The Second French Empire would be a good example of a liberal dictatorship.

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This is just all for fun. Which would be rightwing dictators, leftwing dictators or bothside dictators and maybe write why?

My list of leftwing dictators
Most communist obviously
such as
Mao Zedong(China)
Kim Jong-Il(North Korea)
Fidel Castro(Cuba)
Josef Stalin(USSR) and more
Robert Mugabi(Zimbabwe)
Saddam Hussein(Iraq)
Bashar al-Assad(Syria)
Slobodan Milošević(Yugoslavia)
Leonid Brezhnev(USSR)
Than Shwe(Burma)
Moammar Gadhafi(Libya)
Aleksandr Lukashenko(Belarus)

My list of bothside dictators
Adolf Hitler(Germany)
Benito Mussolini(Italy)
Ayatollah Ali Khamenei(Iran)
and more

My list of rightwing dictators
Most military-dictatorship
Augusto Pinochet(Chile)
Franco Francsico(Spain)
António de Oliveira Salazar(Portugal)
Ioannis Metaxas(Greece)
Oliver Cromwell(England)
Pervez Musharraf(Pakistan)

People can post more and please reasons why? And if you wanna post why I put a certain one in that particular category then just ask and I'll tell you.

Regarding 16th century environment, Cromwell was a progressive

[jokerman]

(and please don't tell me China is a free market country. It's not. I've been there, I have a girlfriend with Chinese roots, so I know a little bit about it. That entire idea is just a popular catch-phrase with no base in reality.)

China will probably never be a "free market" country (nor should it be), because of all the western cultural prerequisites necessary for the seemingly ubiquitous term "free market."  They will most likely always be under "socialism with Chinese characteristics," as Deng put it (emphasize the Chinese characteristics).  But neither is it desirable that we move towards them, as it would be just as absurd for western Christians to adopt a perfectly fulfilled Confucian system.

[Gustaf]

(and please don't tell me China is a free market country. It's not. I've been there, I have a girlfriend with Chinese roots, so I know a little bit about it. That entire idea is just a popular catch-phrase with no base in reality.)

China will probably never be a "free market" country (nor should it be), because of all the western cultural prerequisites necessary for the seemingly ubiquitous term "free market."  They will most likely always be under "socialism with Chinese characteristics," as Deng put it (emphasize the Chinese characteristics).  But neither is it desirable that we move towards them, as it would be just as absurd for western Christians to adopt a perfectly fulfilled Confucian system.

I don't believe in that sort of cultural relativism. I think all people deserve their rights and a decent system of society regardless of their cultural background.

[Person Man]

(and please don't tell me China is a free market country. It's not. I've been there, I have a girlfriend with Chinese roots, so I know a little bit about it. That entire idea is just a popular catch-phrase with no base in reality.)

China will probably never be a "free market" country (nor should it be), because of all the western cultural prerequisites necessary for the seemingly ubiquitous term "free market."  They will most likely always be under "socialism with Chinese characteristics," as Deng put it (emphasize the Chinese characteristics).  But neither is it desirable that we move towards them, as it would be just as absurd for western Christians to adopt a perfectly fulfilled Confucian system.

I don't believe in that sort of cultural relativism. I think all people deserve their rights and a decent system of society regardless of their cultural background.

I actually knew a conservative republican in law school that said that the USSR was probably pretty close to making communism work and that we should have let them be. Apparently, there are jackasses everywhere on the spectrum.

...and yet...I wonder when we are finally going to get our very own dictator...he will be a total tool and dildo, but he will be our tool and dildo. I give it a 50/50 that we will actually ever get one. I give us a 25% chance of really living to see the real "end of history" and I give us a 25% chance of losing our national identity without being given the chance to have our dictator.

Some would say that Bush TRIED to be a dictator...but he probably wasn't that good at it. I can guarantee you that if Obama was disrespectful of democratic processes as Bush was, we wouldn't have this Health Care fight as we speak... though Bush let the Democrats keep social security....

From what I can see from Nixon to Obama-era politics is that the dictator will probably be ultra-nationalistic, extremely economically interventionalist for a narrow set of interests, will probably be itching to start a war as soon as he gets into office and will probably defer to non-government bureaucracies before defering to the legislature, the courts or even local governmental bureaucracies. Basically, our dictator will probably try to perforate the constitution and use his personally owned rules, procedures and bureaucracies to run the country. I don't think our American Dictator would actually send troops to execute or remove Congress or the Supreme Court, but the Congressional Bureaucracy and the Judicial Bureaucracy will probably be only symbolic.

At this point, this is probably what his agenda will look like-

Social Policies
Totalitarian, but not particularly left or right
- The criminalization of homosexual behavior or the open intention to be a homosexual
- The confiscation of firearms from non-party and non-military members above bolt-action .22 rifles.
- The prohibition of all academic activity not approved by his bureaucracy or him/her/it personally
- All acts that would or theoretically seperate reproduction from the sexual act would be a felony (Abortion, Birth Control, Homosexuality, Casual Sex...non-marital sex)
- The expanded and public use of capital punishment and corporal punish for non-violent felonies.
- The cancelation of all current guarantees that one will not be evaluated on the base of their phenotype or theology for public or private attributes or services (I don't think we will have an overt genocidal program...we may have mass executions/purges though)
- Compulsory Castration programs for sexual offenders and the non-productive. However, some of these individuals may obtain work in the regime when the regime becomes corrupt enough to use services that they would be specifically suited for.
- Total Militarization of the Borders
- State control of media, entertainment and telecommunications- corporal punishment and  internment for open source participants
- Internment of suspected foreign nationals

Economic Policies- Sweetheart Mercantilism
- Extremely High Flat Mariginal Rate with discrimnatory Tax Benefits to those who qualify
- Creation of high trade barriers with "Sweetheart exceptions".
- Government control and empowerment of "sweetheart" union activity or the enacting of absolutionist industrial property rights for "sweetheart" industries and owners.
- Potential sweetheart businesses- Fossil Energy Extraction, Refinement and Retail, Arms Manufacturers, state-run telecommunication and entertainment companies, Pharmaceutical Companies, Insurance Companies, Manufacturing and Construction Companies and Banking Companies.
- Deficits are paid through property seizure and corporate piracy/privateering (especially on any countries with industries that trade in vital goods and resources)

Foreign Policy-
- Increase Military Spending to 12% of GNP from 7% GNP
- Use of the Olympics and the United Nations to pass laws restricting the sovreignty of disfavored nations. If these organization do not support the dictator's agenda, they will either be boycotted, defunded or be replaced by our own international programs.
- Creation of a "League of Democracies" for burden sharing purposes and for bases for international expansion.
- Use war to create buffer states in Latin America, The Caribbean, and the Western Artic.
- The use restoration of our nuclear stockpiles from 5000 warheads to 30000 warheads.
- Massive funding of state run fall-out arcologies