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Question: After his performance following State of the Union Jr., has he ended his 2012 chances?
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Never had any
 
#2
Has as much chance as Palin
 
#3
2012, but could still run later
 
#4
Done in Presidential politics forever
 
#5
Who watches 30 Rock? Full steam ahead!
 
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Keystone Phil
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« Reply #100 on: March 02, 2009, 04:52:32 PM »

And it is really revealing that you are arguing that the Republicans need only to ''keep close'' counties which voted Democratic for the first time since 1964. 

Franklin county went for Gore and the others that I looked up were very, very close.


Are you really that obtuse or you are just pretending?

How about Loudoun and Prince William?
How about Jefferson and Arapahoe?
How about Washoe?
How about Chester and Berks? 


What about them? Did some of them not go for Kerry in 2004 and were they not close? We're not doomed if we don't win them.

First of all Kerry didn't win any of them

Ok, I got that. I thought he won Berks.

 
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« Reply #101 on: March 02, 2009, 05:13:48 PM »

And it is really revealing that you are arguing that the Republicans need only to ''keep close'' counties which voted Democratic for the first time since 1964. 

Franklin county went for Gore and the others that I looked up were very, very close.


Are you really that obtuse or you are just pretending?

How about Loudoun and Prince William?
How about Jefferson and Arapahoe?
How about Washoe?
How about Chester and Berks? 


What about them? Did some of them not go for Kerry in 2004 and were they not close? We're not doomed if we don't win them.


 
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The scale of it is something new. The age gap this year was stunning, especially between those above 30 and those younger than that. Above that age the age gap was something which was more "normal". Also I have seen polls where they found out there are more liberals than conservatives in our generation. Of course the number of moderates in our generation is higher than normal as well. It doesn't seem like liberals gained as much as conservatives lost. Perhaps this is just because of Bush and it will balance out as time goes on, but I still feel the republicans have to moderate in order to win our generation in later years. They will not have that huge conservative vs liberal advantage republicans have had these last few decades and republicans will need to start winning more moderate votes. They lost it by 60-39 this year while only losing 53-46 overall.
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« Reply #102 on: March 14, 2009, 07:25:34 PM »

Option 3: his performance merely confirms what I have long thought -he may have ended his already slim chances at getting nominated in 2012 (which I don't believe was likely to happen anyway), but he is still very much in the game for 2016. 
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« Reply #103 on: March 14, 2009, 08:53:33 PM »

I think Ohio and North Carolina aren't really the prob, especially Ohio, since both were fairly Republican compared to Obama's national average and I think, as of now, Portman and Burr are both slightly favored for in 2010.  With Ohio, I imagine states that are losing population relative to the rest of the country tend to trend older and whiter.  With North Carolina, I mean, it's just a state trending Democratic structurally due to transplants, white collar workers, a strengthening local Democratic party, and other demographic and organizational factors. 

A deeper conundrum for me, if I was a Republican grand strategist, would be How will we win back the Hispanic vote? 

As far as "winning back Colorado" eh... that might be out of reach for a few cycles regardless of how moderate the GOP makes their platform.

North Carolina is a bit more Republican than the others, I bought them into the discussion because while it is a bit more Republican than the others, the GOP is facing many of the same problems in the Triangle & Charlotte areas as they are experiencing in Northern Virginia.  As far as Ohio goes, the areas that are gaining population is around the Columbus metro area, and much of that is an increase in the highly educated white collar workers

Well-educated white-collar workers used to be a reliable voting bloc for the GOP. Now that bloc is no longer so reliable at the polls, and the Republicans will have to either reverse the trend or find votes elsewhere.

The GOP used to expect people holding white-collar jobs to vote as their bosses voted. Maybe the political loyalty that white-collar workers used to have to shareholders and executives has eroded -- which says much about the economic order and managerial styles.
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« Reply #104 on: March 15, 2009, 12:08:29 AM »

After hearing about the guy participating in an exorcism while in college he is done.
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« Reply #105 on: March 15, 2009, 04:15:42 AM »

After hearing about the guy participating in an exorcism while in college he is done.

That's fairly old news.
Josh Marshall brought it up first last summer.

And after Palin's exorcism by an African witch doctor, it might be seen as a plus with the religious right base.
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