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« Reply #50 on: March 13, 2009, 02:04:18 AM »

This particular mistake is not uncommon... when ostensibly pro-life elected officials are asked to elaborate on their views, and they are wary of sounding too absolutist, many say something which is fundamentally equivalent to the pro-choice position. John McCain did as much in a debate in 2000 despite having a solid anti-abortion background in Congress. When asked about whether he would allow his daughter to have an abortion, he said it was a family decision in which he would strongly counsel her not to do it because it is a life or something.

There is a way to thread the needle on that one, and not end up in a self-contradictory position.  You can say something like: "Well, under current law, there's nothing I can do to legally stop my daughter from having an abortion, so it is her decision whether I like it or not, and there's nothing I can do to stop that.  If she did do that, I'd be rather horrified, but I wouldn't stop loving her, any more than any other parent stops loving their child when the child makes a decision that they find morally abhorrent."

I don't remember the details of what McCain said, but maybe he didn't leave his words open to that interpretation?



This is a very well thought and effective statement IMHO.
But I am not that sure that it would satisfy the anti-abortion fanatics who want to put in jail everyone involved in an abortion, even the women who did it.
The moderates/Rockefeller Republicans would be pleased with your stance, but James Dobson and Sam Brownback would be livid. 
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« Reply #51 on: March 13, 2009, 02:49:52 AM »

Steele doesn't seem to get the concept that the party chair should be *not seen and not heard.* (kinda like a slave in a plantation field, lol - I love those Republican racist jokes).

His job is to build the party appartus and grass roots, not to appear on TV as much as Obama.  The fact is that the only reason the media will report on the party chair is when he screws up, so...

If he doesn't get this in the short-term near future, he should be gone, regardless of who replaces him.

I don't care if he's seen, heard, whatever - as long as he gets the job done and builds the grassroots and the party apparatus.  If he can't do this, he should be gone.  And I don't care if he's pro-life or pro-choice, but the issue of abortion is a major issue in our party's platform, and if he can't stick to the major issues in the platform (at least in candidates and who the party supports), that also could be a problem.
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« Reply #52 on: March 13, 2009, 04:25:12 AM »

This particular mistake is not uncommon... when ostensibly pro-life elected officials are asked to elaborate on their views, and they are wary of sounding too absolutist, many say something which is fundamentally equivalent to the pro-choice position. John McCain did as much in a debate in 2000 despite having a solid anti-abortion background in Congress. When asked about whether he would allow his daughter to have an abortion, he said it was a family decision in which he would strongly counsel her not to do it because it is a life or something.

There is a way to thread the needle on that one, and not end up in a self-contradictory position.  You can say something like: "Well, under current law, there's nothing I can do to legally stop my daughter from having an abortion, so it is her decision whether I like it or not, and there's nothing I can do to stop that.  If she did do that, I'd be rather horrified, but I wouldn't stop loving her, any more than any other parent stops loving their child when the child makes a decision that they find morally abhorrent."

I don't remember the details of what McCain said, but maybe he didn't leave his words open to that interpretation?



This is a very well thought and effective statement IMHO.
But I am not that sure that it would satisfy the anti-abortion fanatics who want to put in jail everyone involved in an abortion, even the women who did it.

I don't think so.  The bulk of pro-life politicians favor criminalizing abortion for doctors, but oppose imposing criminal penalties on the women getting the abortion.  (Of course, all of this supposes a hypothetical world in which the courts allow them to criminalize it at all.)  They pay no penalty for this stance among pro-life activists.

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