Who is more worthy of impeachment?

[Lincoln Republican]

Bush, of course. However, with so little time left in the Bush administration, I'd rather see him in prison than impeached.

You will see neither, at any time, my friend.

There are simply no grounds, never have been.  If there were, some Democratic hack would have introduced impeachment proceedings long ago.

[Lincoln Republican]

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And those views and opinions = grounds on which articles of impeachment could have been introduced. 

I realize your partisan blinders have inhibited your ability to think, so lets move on.

Anyone who thinks Bush warrants impeachment more than one of the most absolutely morally bankrupt politicians in the history of the nation, Blagojevic, are the ones wearing the darkest partisan blinders.

[paul718]

Bush, of course. However, with so little time left in the Bush administration, I'd rather see him in prison than impeached.

You will see neither, at any time, my friend.

There are simply no grounds, never have been.  If there were, some Democratic hack would have introduced impeachment proceedings long ago.

Kucinich did, but Pelosi squashed it.  Yay Pelosi.

I agree with you on everything else though.

[Lincoln Republican]

There are absolutely no grounds on which there could have been introduced impeachment proceedings against President George W Bush, and I defy anyone to prove otherwise.

If there were, there would have been impeachment proceedings introduced against the President long ago.

Oh I forgot to mention that an impeachment resolution was introduced in the House:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/11/kucinich.impeach/

Yes, but the resolution was not even worthy of discussion, therefore not considered as even valid, therefore was quashed by the Democratic leadership themselves.

Perhaps I should rephrase my statement to read that no valid resolution for Bush impeachment proceedings has ever been introduced.

Sorry, anyone who believes that Bush is more valid of impeachment than Blagojevic is either an extreme partisan hack, is extremley misinformed, is deluded, or is simply in denial.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Starting an illegal war based false pretenses that lead to the slaughter of thousands > Trying to sell a Senate seat

A war that was voted in favor of by 99% of the Democrats in the Senate and the House.

There were 209 Democrats in the House at the time, 82 voted for it. That's 39.2%. 29 out of the 50 Senate Democrats supported it, that's 58%. Neither figure is anywhere near 99%.

[Matt Damon™]

Barack H. Obama

[Marokai Backbeat]

Starting an illegal war based false pretenses that lead to the slaughter of thousands > Trying to sell a Senate seat

A war that was voted in favor of by 99% of the Democrats in the Senate and the House.

There were 209 Democrats in the House at the time, 82 voted for it. That's 39.2%. 29 out of the 50 Senate Democrats supported it, that's 58%. Neither figure is anywhere near 99%.

Bumping this because I'm anxious to see the response.

[Lincoln Republican]

OK, my math was off, but I still did not see any of these House or Senate Democrats, who were so opposed to authorizing the war, bring forth impeachment proceedings.  They did not like the idea of the war, however, they also realized the President never did anything worthy of impeachment 

The lone exception being ultra leftist wingnut Kucinich, whose motion was summarily dismissed by the Democratic leadership, which has been discussed previously.

[Tetro Kornbluth]

The position of Democratic party politicians on the war c2003 has nothing to do with whether Bush should be impeached or not. It is a classic talking around the issue by association ploy.

[WillK]

Perhaps I should rephrase my statement to read that no valid resolution for Bush impeachment proceedings has ever been introduced.

Fine, squirm and wiggle now that you realize you were wrong.

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Not the point I was disputing with you.

[Lincoln Republican]

Perhaps I should rephrase my statement to read that no valid resolution for Bush impeachment proceedings has ever been introduced.

Fine, squirm and wiggle now that you realize you were wrong.

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Not the point I was disputing with you.

OK, you tell me, Mr. impeachment expert, just how far this impeachment proceeding progressed?

[AkSaber]

If I actually thought that Bush intentionally lied to the American people to get us into Iraq, I'd be the first calling for his impeachment, but I HONESTLY think that he made a mistake.

I know what you mean.  There is no concrete evidence that the President broke the law, but can you blame us for suspecting that he did? I mean, he rushed us into this very poorly thought out war, justified it with fabricated evidence, and it turned out to be completely unnecessary. Not only that, he has made winning this war as difficult as possible. It's like he put a leash on the military and yanked on it whenever they came close to accomplishing anything. Add to that he has consistently refused to give the military the tactical and medical support they need. The medical care our wounded vets receive is absolutely shameful. Hell, what we give those scum of the earth bastards at Guantanamo is much better that what wounded vets have. After 4 years of letting al Queda run around the country doing whatever they wanted, he finally changed the way things were done and let the military off its leash and allowed them to do their damn jobs. But the only reason he did that was because the Democrats had just taken Congress. I think he changed his mind was because they were threatening to end the war.

The justification and handling of the war aren't my only gripes. With Iraq being screwed up it drastically inflated the worldwide price of oil. So Exxon, Shell, OPEC, and the rest of them were doing all right. Then you get to the defense contractors with Halliburton being the most famous. Well, they start to win government contracts left-and-right, and before you know it, all the President's friends are raking in cash hand-over-fist while the rest of us are forced to pay much, much more for the things we need.

So yeah, I think the President wanted this war cause he wanted to increase his friends' profit margins. I have no proof for it, but that's just how I feel.

[Boris]

Proving anything with regards to pre-war intel would be extremely difficult, if not impossible. Unless someone left "smoking-gun" evidence somewhere. People in high places should have begun quietly probing around 2003 with the intent of releasing said "smoking-gun" evidence around October 2004 if found.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

If I actually thought that Bush intentionally lied to the American people to get us into Iraq, I'd be the first calling for his impeachment, but I HONESTLY think that he made a mistake.

I know what you mean.  There is no concrete evidence that the President broke the law, but can you blame us for suspecting that he did? I mean, he rushed us into this very poorly thought out war, justified it with fabricated evidence, and it turned out to be completely unnecessary. Not only that, he has made winning this war as difficult as possible. It's like he put a leash on the military and yanked on it whenever they came close to accomplishing anything. Add to that he has consistently refused to give the military the tactical and medical support they need. The medical care our wounded vets receive is absolutely shameful. Hell, what we give those scum of the earth bastards at Guantanamo is much better that what wounded vets have. After 4 years of letting al Queda run around the country doing whatever they wanted, he finally changed the way things were done and let the military off its leash and allowed them to do their damn jobs. But the only reason he did that was because the Democrats had just taken Congress. I think he changed his mind was because they were threatening to end the war.

The justification and handling of the war aren't my only gripes. With Iraq being screwed up it drastically inflated the worldwide price of oil. So Exxon, Shell, OPEC, and the rest of them were doing all right. Then you get to the defense contractors with Halliburton being the most famous. Well, they start to win government contracts left-and-right, and before you know it, all the President's friends are raking in cash hand-over-fist while the rest of us are forced to pay much, much more for the things we need.

So yeah, I think the President wanted this war cause he wanted to increase his friends' profit margins. I have no proof for it, but that's just how I feel.

I agree with a lot of that (the bold stuff).  Find me the proof for illegal stuff, and I'll lead the charge on impeachment (although it's a little late now)