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minionofmidas
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« on: December 05, 2008, 08:56:56 AM »
« edited: December 10, 2008, 04:44:09 PM by Cao / Rahim '12! »

Mental Law Gun Ban
Whereas: The massacre at Virginia Tech was done by a man that was Mentally Unstable.
Whereas: Because he went to see someone to analyze him at his school/hospital and it was ruled he wasn't a threat this didn't go on his record. The girls he stalked also did not press charges. He was however Mentally Unstable (suicidal).

Therefore: This legislation will require any offense or ruling related to or dealing with the mental health of a person be included on that person's criminal back ground for the mentally ill and for the mentally unstable for a period of 5 years.

Therefore: Preventing anyone who is deemed mentally ill / mentally unstable by either a court or a psychiatrist from attaining firearms, regardless of state laws currently in place regarding this issue.

In an attempt to curtail further attacks this bill will ONLY prevent the mentally ill (temporary for mentally unstable) from purchasing firearms of any caliber for any use by requiring that mental health rulings and clinical evaluations be included on the background check.



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minionofmidas
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« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2008, 12:36:30 PM »

I think this bill needs some rewriting, actually. I'm also not sure if it's constitutional - don't we have broader gun rights language than the US constitution (I'm no expert. It's not a hot button issue to me. But I seem to recall that those to whom it was one won the day.)
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« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2008, 12:53:04 PM »

I think this bill needs some rewriting, actually. I'm also not sure if it's constitutional - don't we have broader gun rights language than the US constitution (I'm no expert. It's not a hot button issue to me. But I seem to recall that those to whom it was one won the day.)

ah alright, if that is true I will of course retract this.
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« Reply #3 on: December 05, 2008, 03:12:50 PM »

Yeah, we have more spelled out guns law and I will not be voting for any gun control.  But this bill is kind of cool as I don't think I've ever voted on gun control before
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« Reply #4 on: December 05, 2008, 10:34:09 PM »

I ask that the Senate support the rights to self-defense of the "mentally ill". If universal armament were our policy, as it is in Switzerland and Israel, we wouldn't have to worry about massacres like this.
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« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2008, 10:54:33 PM »

I ask that the Senate support the rights to self-defense of the "mentally ill". If universal armament were our policy, as it is in Switzerland and Israel, we wouldn't have to worry about massacres like this.

     Indeed. What if the government paid psychiatrists to determine that its opponents were all mentally ill?
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« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2008, 08:55:40 AM »

First Amendment of the Second Constitution reads as follows;

"The right to keep and bear fire-arms and low-potency explosives shall not be infringed"

As such, this bill is clearly unconstitutional.
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« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2008, 04:10:23 PM »

First Amendment of the Second Constitution reads as follows;

"The right to keep and bear fire-arms and low-potency explosives shall not be infringed"

As such, this bill is clearly unconstitutional.
Indeed. It would require a constitutional amendment.
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« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2008, 05:30:54 PM »

So anyone want to either a) motion to table or b) change this into a constitutional amendment?
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« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2008, 05:44:29 PM »

Now knowing the constitutional problems with the bill I will withdraw it.
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« Reply #10 on: December 06, 2008, 05:56:33 PM »

Senators have seventy-two hours to assume sponsorship.
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« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2008, 04:43:50 PM »

This bill has been withdrawn.
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