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« Reply #100 on: September 22, 2008, 04:00:24 PM »

So prophetman...

Do all people with dark skin bear the mark of Cain?  Or just Africans and people of African descent? 

I can hardly wait.

Based on everything that's said in scriptures about Cain and about the man of sin; son of perdition, African blacks are the only race of people on earth who fits that profile.

In contrast, European caucasians fit the profile of everything that's said in scriptures about God's people, ie the "House of Israel".

Thus, African blacks = the people of Satan.
European caucasians = the people of God.

This is not to say that caucasian peoples are any less wicked than the blacks today, for one is just as wicked and corrupt as the other.  And, it doesn't mean that blacks are unredeemable, for when it comes to salvation, God is no respecter of persons.



So if a non-African or non-African-American black -- say an aboriginal Australian -- wanted to join your church or marry your daughter, that would be fine?
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« Reply #101 on: September 24, 2008, 10:29:35 AM »

  As a caucasian married to an African American woman, I will now take my accolades for helping to 'destroy the white race'  LOL

  I believe this whole thing is silly.  The book of Revelation was directed towards Christians who were suffering under the persecution of Nero and was meant as an encouragement to continue in the faith.

  The whole idea that it, or the book of Daniel can be applied to present day events is in my opinion totally ludicrous.  You can toss the whole millenialism nonsense and the 'Left Behind' book series on that pile of trash as well.

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« Reply #102 on: September 24, 2008, 11:28:24 AM »

  I believe this whole thing is silly.  The book of Revelation was directed towards Christians who were suffering under the persecution of Nero and was meant as an encouragement to continue in the faith.

to say that a book of the NT isn't applicable to the current day is pretty shortsighted.  God knew which books were going to make up the NT and made each and every one applicable for the entire church age.

  The whole idea that it, or the book of Daniel can be applied to present day events is in my opinion totally ludicrous.

Daniel talks about future events leading up to the end times and including the resurrection of dead.  And Daniel was specifically told that he would not understand what was written, but those living in the end times would.  So, unless you are going to argue that we are currently past the end of time and past the resurrection of the dead, then I don't know how you think it isn't applicable to us.


  You can toss the whole millenialism nonsense and the 'Left Behind' book series on that pile of trash as well.

you don't have to be a millenialist or a pre-tribber to believe Danial and Revelations refer to future events.
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« Reply #103 on: September 28, 2008, 02:00:47 AM »
« Edited: September 28, 2008, 02:03:10 AM by Smid »

So prophetman...

Do all people with dark skin bear the mark of Cain?  Or just Africans and people of African descent? 

I can hardly wait.

Based on everything that's said in scriptures about Cain and about the man of sin; son of perdition, African blacks are the only race of people on earth who fits that profile.

My question is this:
I have never understood how the mark of Cain could still be evidenced in the world today. I've always imagined it as being sort of like a tattoo and nothing genetic, although I'm no expert on Cain and his offspring... My big hang up is something further, though. If it's a tattoo type thing, then of course it's ludicrous to say that any particular race today could possibly bear the mark of Cain, but even if it was genetic, someone needs to explain to me how Cain's lineage exists today - given that I believe in a literal account of Genesis, including chapters 6-8 - the Flood.

If the mark of Cain was somehow genetic and his offspring also had it, then somehow they must have married into Noah's family - either Noah's wife, or the wife of at least one of his three sons must have also borne the mark of Cain. This must especially be the case given Genesis 9:18 & 19:

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Note the use of "the whole earth" - so if everyone alive today is descended from one of the three sons of Noah, it stands that at least one of Noah's grandsons/daughters also bore the mark of Cain if anyone in the world today bears that mark.

Of course, you could claim that one of Noah's sons had married into Cain's lineage and that this is the abomination you referred to with interracial marriage... This complicates matters for you, however...

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So, if Noah and his family were saved because God viewed them as righteous, and you believe the mark of Cain is in the world today, then God must be fine with marrying Cain's offspring.

So there are only three options:
1. The mark of Cain was not genetic and was a mark put on Cain that was not 'inherited' by his offspring, or
2. The mark of Cain was genetic, but people bearing the mark of Cain did not marry into Noah's family and no one alive today bears the mark of Cain because everyone with the mark of Cain perished during the flood, or
3. Some people bear the mark of Cain today, and they are descended from the wives of Noah's children and God had no problems with Noah's children marrying people bearing the mark of Cain and that if the mark of Cain is a racial colouring, then God therefore has no problems with interracial marriage.

So prophetman, tell me: which of these three options do you believe, or do you believe Genesis to be not literally true - in which case, given that you believe in the mark of Cain, which parts of Genesis are true and which are not?
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« Reply #104 on: October 02, 2008, 11:51:18 AM »

prophetman... one of our finest trolls.
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