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khirkhib
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« on: September 13, 2004, 03:09:57 AM »

This question goes out to the republicans on this site.  You have to admit that they are resolute and stand fast so I would like to know if there was anyway that Bush could lose your support.

I tried to give some reasonable options.  If there is some other reason not listed please tell.  

I can honestly say that there is no way that I could or would ever vote for Bush and partisan I may be but I would vote for Kerry regardless because Karl Rove is so suspect to me that  I feel anything negative that may and will come out about Kerry would be seen by me just to be propaganda and mud and just put out to make me not vote at all.  Mud slinging works pretty good at suppressing the vote.  

But hey, maybe you guys are bigger than me on this one.  So turn the microscope on yourself and tell me.  Is there any reason at all that you wouldn't vote for Bush/
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« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2004, 03:40:13 AM »

Bush could only lose my vote to the libertarian candidate if he endorses Kerry for president.
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2004, 06:50:33 AM »


I'm not a Republican, but I voted anyway.  There is not much that could happen which would cause me to back any of the other candidates at this point in the game . . . unless Kerry bows out and Edwards takes over as the Democratic candidate.  

The only think I can think of is if Bush did something totally extreme, such as launching missles into Iran or Korea.  If that was the case, then I'd have to vote to get him removed.  But since that wouldn't happen, I'm pretty confident with my vote this year.
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2004, 05:00:18 PM »

I guess we are all pretty stuborn. It'll only get worse too.
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« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2004, 08:39:50 PM »

He already has, in the sense that I'm not bothering to vote.  I'm uncomfortable with a born-again evangelical in that office, for fear of loss of social freedoms.
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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2004, 09:13:45 PM »

Not as a result of any of these issues. I've never voted for a Democrat for President and now does not seem an appropriate time to start. Smiley

I tend to vote for who mostly agrees with me - I'm one of those voters. I don't vote based on hair style, what my candidate looks like, based on who he is or is not sleeping with, that he does or does not speak eloquent standard average English - sure that's all great scenery and ammo and I'm sure a lot of people vote based on that stuff - but when it gets down to it I vote for who I agree with and who I feel best represents me as a secure educated straight white male and who would do the things I would do if I were President. No, I don't agree with him on everything, but I agree with him megatons more than his alternative.  
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2004, 12:33:08 AM »
« Edited: September 14, 2004, 12:34:26 AM by supersoulty »

Options 1 and 5 only.

For 1, he would have to be currently using drugs, of course, in which case, I think he should resign and move off the the ticket.
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2004, 12:38:48 AM »

None of these except "does not share values of the party" have any impact on me.  The only way he'd lose my vote is if he appeased some terror state like Iran.

Super, does this mean you won't be voting for Rudy or McCain in 2008?
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2004, 12:39:31 AM »

None of these except "does not share values of the party" have any impact on me.  The only way he'd lose my vote is if he appeased some terror state like Iran.

Super, does this mean you won't be voting for Rudy or McCain in 2008?

Does giving classified information on Iran to Iran through Chalabi count?
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2004, 12:48:31 AM »

None of these except "does not share values of the party" have any impact on me.  The only way he'd lose my vote is if he appeased some terror state like Iran.

Super, does this mean you won't be voting for Rudy or McCain in 2008?

I'm voting for Pataki as of right now.
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2004, 02:19:40 AM »

Wow I have to say that I am impressed by the frank responces to the questions.

Now personally, and I'm sure your not surprised, but I think that since Bush abused cocaine and alcohol in the past and was never treated that he is an alcoholic.  The mere fact that Bush did not even report to a base in Boston when he went to graduate school indicates to me that he shirked his duty.  I don't think that Bush shares the core values of the republican party of small government, fiscal management and a focus on America first.  And more recently the intellectual dishonesty Bush has shown by saying that he would have signed a continuation on the Weapon's ban but you guys know, you know he had no interest in ever getting it to be signed.  And if that isn't the most vacuous politicing I've ever heard I wouldn't know what is.

I believe that information on Plame was released from Cheney's office but it matched a dangerous pattern of attacking and defaming all challenges to Bush.  A pattern established by Rove and Bush through-out Bush's various campaigns.

The Killian documents I don't know about yet and I think it is something that needs to be investigated but I think it is distracting the american public from more important issues.

America can do better than Bush.  The republican party could have done so much better than Bush.  The neo-cons have hood winked the party and I don't think that it is good for the long term health of the republican party.
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2004, 02:44:11 AM »

Wow I have to say that I am impressed by the frank responces to the questions.

Now personally, and I'm sure your not surprised, but I think that since Bush abused cocaine and alcohol in the past and was never treated that he is an alcoholic.  The mere fact that Bush did not even report to a base in Boston when he went to graduate school indicates to me that he shirked his duty.  I don't think that Bush shares the core values of the republican party of small government, fiscal management and a focus on America first.  And more recently the intellectual dishonesty Bush has shown by saying that he would have signed a continuation on the Weapon's ban but you guys know, you know he had no interest in ever getting it to be signed.  And if that isn't the most vacuous politicing I've ever heard I wouldn't know what is.

I believe that information on Plame was released from Cheney's office but it matched a dangerous pattern of attacking and defaming all challenges to Bush.  A pattern established by Rove and Bush through-out Bush's various campaigns.

The Killian documents I don't know about yet and I think it is something that needs to be investigated but I think it is distracting the american public from more important issues.

America can do better than Bush.  The republican party could have done so much better than Bush.  The neo-cons have hood winked the party and I don't think that it is good for the long term health of the republican party.

To be honest, to the best of our knowledge, he's a recovered alcoholic.
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2004, 05:04:18 AM »

What can make Bush lose my vote (assuming i could vote in the 1st place...)? If he starts trying on J. Edgar Hoover's skirts, i'll vote for Badnarik.
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2004, 09:47:31 AM »

What can make Bush lose my vote (assuming i could vote in the 1st place...)? If he starts trying on J. Edgar Hoover's skirts, i'll vote for Badnarik.

I would think you libertarians would be more open minded about these things.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2004, 02:12:44 PM »

Is anybody planning on reading the Kitty Kelley book to se what all the fuss is about.  
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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2004, 02:26:28 PM »

Is anybody planning on reading the Kitty Kelley book to se what all the fuss is about.  

I haven't read any of her tabloid fiction books.  Don't ever plan on it either.
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2004, 02:47:40 PM »

Is anybody planning on reading the Kitty Kelley book to se what all the fuss is about.  

No, because she is a known liar.  She has been caught in lie after lie during the whole leagth of her career.  Given that record, why should anyone take her seriously.  This is the woman who said that Frank Sinatra and Nancy Reagan were screwing around in the White House.
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2004, 05:41:22 PM »


Bush has ticked me off a lot in the last year, mainly his appeasment of liberals and illegal aliens.

But to lose my vote he would have to be found guilty of corruption or some other crime involving the illegal use of the office of president.  

If I found out he was currently having an affair, I would just not vote at all in the presidential election or vote some obscure 3rd party.  If his wife can't trust him, how can I?
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« Reply #18 on: September 14, 2004, 06:48:47 PM »

I can honestly say that if it could be proven beyond a resonable doubt that Bush was CURRENTLY using chemicals to the extent that it would impair his ability to execute the office, I would not vote for him.
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« Reply #19 on: September 14, 2004, 06:55:43 PM »

Haven't firmly decided on my vote yet.

If it seems likely the Bush is going to win big, I'll probably vote for Badnarik.

Bush needs to get the message that he needs to curb domestic spending.

Slight temptation to vote for Perouka as like many other Arizonas, I ticked off at his reluctance to act decisively to stop illegal immigration.
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« Reply #20 on: September 14, 2004, 07:38:43 PM »

None of these except "does not share values of the party" have any impact on me.  The only way he'd lose my vote is if he appeased some terror state like Iran.

Super, does this mean you won't be voting for Rudy or McCain in 2008?

Does giving classified information on Iran to Iran through Chalabi count?

You are the biggest hack on these boards.  You spout off every conspiracy theory as if it were fact.  The CPA (which is run by the US and therefore absolves Bush of any possible action by Chalabi) ransacked Chalabi's home and found nothing connecting Chalabi to any such activity.

Show some evidence for your claims!

Again and again you get on here and launch aprtisan hits on people!  Your mindless defense of the CBS docu-fraud is a perfect example.  Jmf blows you out of the water and shows you to be a foll and a liar, but you just keep coming back for more.

Grow the hell up.
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« Reply #21 on: September 14, 2004, 08:57:18 PM »


John, just do as I do.  Ignore 90% of his rhetoric stuff and respond only when he comes up with something original.
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« Reply #22 on: September 14, 2004, 09:43:18 PM »

Regardless of the charges of giving information to Iran Chalabi doesn't seem like he is a good guy and deffinately not that the calibar of man that should be allowed to sit with the first lady during the state of the union address.
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« Reply #23 on: September 14, 2004, 10:07:49 PM »


The major reason was not mantioned at all:

Bush is the darling of the big corporations. They badly need him to continue.
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« Reply #24 on: September 14, 2004, 10:46:44 PM »

Bush has long admitted he was irresponsible in his youth. Rehashing what happened 40 years ago is a complete waste of time and indicates the extreme desperation of Democrats.

In fact, when Bush is reelected, the Secret Service better be on full alert for some wacko hippie pulling a gun and opening up. The left is completely deranged (most of it).
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