Mayor Institutes 24-Hour, Non-Stop Curfew

[Bono]

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Authorities say in an attempt to stop the violence, a neighborhood on the Westside of Helena-West Helena is under a 24-hour, non-stop curfew that could be extended for days.
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It's a tale of two cities. The result of what police are calling a small gang turf war. Neighbors Mary Stevens, Flora Commons and Antone Johnson live in the middle of it. "They've been shooting for three or four nights," says Commons. "It's time to put a stop to all the crime. You can't sleep at night because people are shooting and you want to know where the bullet is going to go next," says Johnson. Mayor James Valley says the impacted area is violence-prone. So from South Sebastian to Fourth Street and Anderson to Garland Street, no one is allowed out. He says it's, "...to curtail some of the general mayhem we've been experiencing, particularly the gun shots," says Valley. "Nobody can walk down the street and be safe, that is, be free from police interference," says Valley.

"I don't think it's right," expresses Stevens. Some neighbors say they're being unfairly punished for the crimes other people have committed. "They know exactly who's doing the shooting, the robbery, but it seems like we're never going to get any justice around here," says Stevens. "We got kids down here. They should lock up these young folks that have been doing the shooting; don't put us hostage or on lockdown," complains Commons.

Assistant Police Chief Ronald Scott says since the curfew was implemented late Thursday afternoon, people are sleeping better. "We've taken some drugs off people, a couple of guns off people," says Scott. Authorities say that is the whole point.

But the ACLU of Arkansas sent Mayor Valley a letter saying the curfew is unconstitutional. To read the letter, click here.

[memphis]

An extreme measure, for sure. I have the feeling that if I had the extreme misfortune of living in the neighborhood, I'd support the measure out of desperation.

[John Dibble]

Lock up everyone in their homes and hope the violence stops. They call that a solution? At best this is a band-aid. Eventually this curfew will have to end and the violence will continue.

[Associate Justice PiT]

Lock up everyone in their homes and hope the violence stops. They call that a solution? At best this is a band-aid. Eventually this curfew will have to end and the violence will continue.

     Nonsense. Just have helicopters para-drop everything the residents need. It will work FOREVER.

[Хahar 🤔]

Lock up everyone in their homes and hope the violence stops. They call that a solution? At best this is a band-aid. Eventually this curfew will have to end and the violence will continue.

     Nonsense. Just have helicopters para-drop everything the residents need. It will work FOREVER.

Like what happened in Berlin?

[Associate Justice PiT]

Lock up everyone in their homes and hope the violence stops. They call that a solution? At best this is a band-aid. Eventually this curfew will have to end and the violence will continue.

     Nonsense. Just have helicopters para-drop everything the residents need. It will work FOREVER.

Like what happened in Berlin?

     Why not? I was just being sarcastic anyway.

[NDN]

Nonsense. Just have helicopters para-drop everything the residents need. It will work FOREVER.

Are you John McCain?

[Ban my account ffs!]

Okay.. I saw Helena and I thought of Montana... still, that's pretty bad.  (insert generic sarcastic gun control comment here)

[Person Man]

MORE GOVERNMENT ABUSE THAN YOUR BODY HAS ROOM FOR!!!!!!

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Fascism. People who shoot back at the cops trying to enforce this illegal and unconstitutional totalitarianism = FF

[John Dibble]

Fascism. People who shoot back at the cops trying to enforce this illegal and unconstitutional totalitarianism = FF

Because, you know, just electing a new mayor or getting the order struck down by the courts aren't reasonable or valid things to do in a democratic state.

But if you think that violence against the police who enforce this is such a worthy action, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and go there and shoot up some cops?

[Person Man]

Fascism. People who shoot back at the cops trying to enforce this illegal and unconstitutional totalitarianism = FF

Because, you know, just electing a new mayor or getting the order struck down by the courts aren't reasonable or valid things to do in a democratic state.

But if you think that violence against the police who enforce this is such a worthy action, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and go there and shoot up some cops?

Yes....pipe down, we are not at fascism....yet.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Fascism. People who shoot back at the cops trying to enforce this illegal and unconstitutional totalitarianism = FF

Because, you know, just electing a new mayor or getting the order struck down by the courts aren't reasonable or valid things to do in a democratic state.

But if you think that violence against the police who enforce this is such a worthy action, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and go there and shoot up some cops?

I'm just saying it's OK in THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, since it's an illegal and unconstitutional order. If Minneapolis was under 24-hour curfew, it'd be comparable, but it's not.

Since the police are supposed to uphold the law, they should NOT be enforcing this, since it's illegal. Following illegal orders is not legal.

[John Dibble]

Fascism. People who shoot back at the cops trying to enforce this illegal and unconstitutional totalitarianism = FF

Because, you know, just electing a new mayor or getting the order struck down by the courts aren't reasonable or valid things to do in a democratic state.

But if you think that violence against the police who enforce this is such a worthy action, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and go there and shoot up some cops?

I'm just saying it's OK in THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, since it's an illegal and unconstitutional order. If Minneapolis was under 24-hour curfew, it'd be comparable, but it's not.

Since the police are supposed to uphold the law, they should NOT be enforcing this, since it's illegal. Following illegal orders is not legal.

It's also illegal to shoot cops, but that doesn't seem to stop you from applauding it. If these cops aren't posing an immediate threat to the lives of innocent civilians, the the courts and the ballot box are still the options that reasonable people would resort to considering we live in a democratic society.

And I'm telling you to go THERE, not stay in Minneapolis. Even if it was happening where you live, I doubt you'd actually shoot any cops. You talk the talk but you're probably too much of a chicken s**t to walk the walk. So again, put your money where your mouth is or stop spewing out all that bull.

[Person Man]

Yeah, Dibble is right. Then again, if the cops were attacking people...

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

Fascism. People who shoot back at the cops trying to enforce this illegal and unconstitutional totalitarianism = FF

Because, you know, just electing a new mayor or getting the order struck down by the courts aren't reasonable or valid things to do in a democratic state.

But if you think that violence against the police who enforce this is such a worthy action, why don't you put your money where your mouth is and go there and shoot up some cops?

I'm just saying it's OK in THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, since it's an illegal and unconstitutional order. If Minneapolis was under 24-hour curfew, it'd be comparable, but it's not.

Since the police are supposed to uphold the law, they should NOT be enforcing this, since it's illegal. Following illegal orders is not legal.

It's also illegal to shoot cops, but that doesn't seem to stop you from applauding it. If these cops aren't posing an immediate threat to the lives of innocent civilians, the the courts and the ballot box are still the options that reasonable people would resort to considering we live in a democratic society.

And for the time being? Should people wait 2-3 years to vote the mayor out? Suffer under martial law for a long time to get the courts to overturn it? You're basically saying people who live there should suffer under this for the time being.

Besides it was you Libertarians who were praising people who shot cops in New Orleans to prevent their guns from being confiscated.

And I'm telling you to go THERE, not stay in Minneapolis. Even if it was happening where you live, I doubt you'd actually shoot any cops. You talk the talk but you're probably too much of a chicken s**t to walk the walk. So again, put your money where your mouth is or stop spewing out all that bull.

Why would I drive all the way down to Arkansas to take part in this when it currently doesn't effect me in any way whatsoever?

[John Dibble]

And for the time being? Should people wait 2-3 years to vote the mayor out? Suffer under martial law for a long time to get the courts to overturn it? You're basically saying people who live there should suffer under this for the time being.

1. For the time being they should do what they can to lawfully, or at least peacefully, get around it and overturn it.
2. If that's how long it takes to get the mayor out, that's how long it takes. Hell, maybe they can hold a recall if that option is available.
3. This is not martial law. Martial law involves military rule, and the military isn't even involved.
4. There's no indication this will last for a long time. I doubt it could be made to last more than two weeks. Even so, a case can be brought to court to prevent it from being done in the future.
5. Yes, they'll have to deal with it for now. It sucks, but I don't see this as a situation that warrants violence. As far as I can tell, nobody's life is in imminent danger from these cops and there are viable peaceful solutions present, so your call for violence is completely unwarranted.

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I never praised any such person, so your point doesn't apply to me.

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Why would I drive all the way down to Arkansas to take part in this when it currently doesn't effect me in any way whatsoever?
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So you care enough to tell THEM that they should shoot cops and go to jail or get shot and killed by the cops in return, but you don't care enough to deal with any of the consequences yourself. Again, I'm going to assert you'd be too chicken to try if it was happening to you.