Gay Rights versus First Amendment Rights?
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
May 23, 2024, 11:57:04 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  International General Discussion (Moderators: afleitch, Hash)
  Gay Rights versus First Amendment Rights?
« previous next »
Pages: [1]
Poll
Question: Do you support enacting into law  the legislation as described in the article below?
#1
Yes
 
#2
No
 
#3
Undecided
 
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results

Total Voters: 4

Author Topic: Gay Rights versus First Amendment Rights?  (Read 1041 times)
Torie
Moderators
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 46,093
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -3.48, S: -4.70

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: July 17, 2008, 03:47:09 PM »
« edited: July 17, 2008, 04:24:54 PM by Torie »

Feel free to comment as you will. If one thinks one thing about enacting it into law in Brazil, and another in the U.S., that can be elucidated as well.

From the Catholic News Agency

Brazilian law would prohibit Christian teaching on homosexuality

Rio de Janeiro, Jul 15, 2008 / 01:36 pm (CNA).- The Brazilian Senate is considering a bill approved unanimously and without debate by the country’s House of Representatives that aims to promote homosexuality and prohibit Christian teaching on the issue, under the guise of combating discrimination.

According to the Association of the Defense of Life, the bill would make it crime punishable by five years in prison to impede expressions of “homosexual affection” in public places or private places open to the public.

It would also punish those who deny employment openly homosexual teachers in schools with up to three years imprisonment, making it impossible for Catholic or Christian schools to prevent homosexuals from joining their faculties.

The bill would also impose prison sentences on any kind of moral, ethical, philosophical or psychological expression that questions homosexual practices. In this way, “a priest, a pastor, a teacher or even an average citizen who says in a sermon, a classroom or public conversation that homosexual acts are sinful, disordered or an illness could be denounced and detained,” the association said.]Catholic News Agency[/url]

Logged
afleitch
Moderator
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 29,925


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2008, 03:59:17 PM »

I won't comment on the bill until another news agency reports it. If you have a link that would be helpful.
Logged
Verily
Cuivienen
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 16,663


Political Matrix
E: 1.81, S: -6.78

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2008, 04:01:24 PM »

Basically agree with Afleitch. The first three paragraphs sounds completely uncontroversial, and then the fourth paragraph is so far out of line with the rest that it makes me wonder how unbiased the reporting can be.
Logged
Torie
Moderators
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 46,093
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -3.48, S: -4.70

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2008, 04:12:14 PM »

I won't comment on the bill until another news agency reports it. If you have a link that would be helpful.

I provided a link, and now it works.
Logged
Verily
Cuivienen
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 16,663


Political Matrix
E: 1.81, S: -6.78

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2008, 04:14:50 PM »

I won't comment on the bill until another news agency reports it. If you have a link that would be helpful.

I provided a link, and now it works.

The CNA is not exactly an unbiased source.
Logged
afleitch
Moderator
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 29,925


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2008, 04:16:13 PM »

I won't comment on the bill until another news agency reports it. If you have a link that would be helpful.

I provided a link, and now it works.

The CNA is not exactly an unbiased source.

True. All they have done in that news piece is quoted the opinions of the Association of the Defense of Life.
Logged
Torie
Moderators
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 46,093
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -3.48, S: -4.70

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2008, 04:27:00 PM »

Basically agree with Afleitch. The first three paragraphs sounds completely uncontroversial, and then the fourth paragraph is so far out of line with the rest that it makes me wonder how unbiased the reporting can be.

You think it is "uncontroversial" to slap five years on someone impeding someone from making out in a church, or restaurant or whatever? 
Logged
Torie
Moderators
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 46,093
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -3.48, S: -4.70

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2008, 04:28:03 PM »

I won't comment on the bill until another news agency reports it. If you have a link that would be helpful.

I provided a link, and now it works.

The CNA is not exactly an unbiased source.

True. All they have done in that news piece is quoted the opinions of the Association of the Defense of Life.

There is nothing to prevent one from assuming arguendo it is true for purposes of discussion, now is there? 
Logged
dead0man
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 46,522
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2008, 04:31:37 PM »

It's wrong when the state legislates what can be said from the pulpit.  Seperation of Church and State is a two way street.
Logged
Albus Dumbledore
Havelock Vetinari
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,917
Congo, The Democratic Republic of the


Political Matrix
E: -0.71, S: -2.17

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2008, 04:43:30 PM »

It's wrong when the state legislates what can be said from the pulpit.  Seperation of Church and State is a two way street.
Logged
Cubby
Pim Fortuyn
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,067
Israel


Political Matrix
E: -3.74, S: -6.96

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2008, 06:52:20 PM »

There's nothing more hypocritical than Christians claiming to be persecuted.

I don't believe this article is true. Its more fear-mongering from those who do it best.

I'm surprised no one has posted about Anwar Ibrahim yet. He was (wrongly) arrested for sodomy in Malaysia.......again! The government really hates him but even conservative Malays aren't dumb enough to fall for the same lie twice. The ruling party is afraid that Ibrahim's coalition will boot it from power after 40 years.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.229 seconds with 14 queries.