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« Reply #50 on: June 09, 2008, 09:18:51 PM »

Xahar: "Mugabe Hussein is not as bad as some dictators so we should let the people deal with him even though they can't".

Great strategy, it'll keep Mugabe Hussein in power until he dies and continue to destroy the country and the people so by the time he dies, if someone else doesn't seize power, there won't be anything left of the country for the people. Great plan!

This is what I'd have said 5 years ago if I could think at that level (which I couldn't, obviously).

I know this argument won't work on you, but the similarities are a word of caution for non-imperialists.

There is a huge difference.  We on't occupy Zimbabwe, we will help would be revolutionaries overthrow him, and then leave the country to them.

With all the infrastructure, etc. destroyed and the country in ruins?

We will help them rebuild, but there will not be an occupation like there has been in Iraq.

Besides, we don't even know if Mugabe will categorically refuse to peacefully give up power. The very presence of such a strong legal opposition is a good sign.

If he gives up power peacefully, then there is no problem at all.

But you're alwready planning an armed uprising.
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« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2008, 12:32:13 AM »

I agree with Xahar here. I feel sympathetic to the people of  Zimbabwe, and am just as outraged as anyone else that Mugabe stole the last election. But We can’t go intervene everywhere in the world where ugly things are taking place. If we aid Zimbabwe, why not aid Darfur as well? And while we’re at that, let’s work on toppling the Burma regime as well, since they won’t let us aid there people. I’m sorry,but I’m against foreign intervention, it costs billions that could be better spent here and stirs up resentment against us. Is it an ugly position to hold? Yes, of course, and in a morally perfect world maybe things would be different. But being that we live in an imperfect world, I believe that the less interference we have in other countries internal affairs, the better. But let us still hope that a new day will dawn for the people of Zimbabwe soon, and they’ll finally get a fair shake.
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« Reply #52 on: June 10, 2008, 06:12:17 AM »

..if not, funk 'em.

"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing"
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« Reply #53 on: June 10, 2008, 06:43:57 AM »

Perhaps exiling him to Elba might do it.

I take it you've never been to Elba.  It's paradise.
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« Reply #54 on: June 11, 2008, 05:14:47 PM »

I am going to start praying for Mugabe's untimely death...

American Aid Is Seized in Zimbabwe

By CELIA W. DUGGER
Published: June 12, 2008


JOHANNESBURG — Zimbabwean authorities confiscated a truck loaded with 20 tons of American food aid for poor schoolchildren and ordered that the wheat and pinto beans aboard be handed out to supporters of President Robert Mugabe at a political rally instead, the American ambassador said Wednesday.

“This government will stop at nothing, even starving the most defenseless people in the county — young children — to realize their political ambitions,” said the ambassador, James D. McGee, in an interview.

The government ordered all humanitarian aid groups to suspend their operations last week, charging that some of them were giving out food as bribes to win votes for the opposition leader, Morgan Tsvangirai, in a June 27 presidential runoff against Mr. Mugabe.

But political analysts, aid workers and human rights groups contend that it is, in fact, Zimbabwe’s governing party that has ruthlessly used food to reward supporters and punish opponents in a country where agricultural production has collapsed over the past decade and millions of people would go hungry each year without emergency assistance.

The seizure of the truck laden with food aid in an area called Bambazonke near the town of Mutare in eastern Zimbabwe on Friday is a case in point, Mr. McGee said.

The truck was hired by one of three non-governmental organizations — CARE, Catholic Relief Services and World Vision — that form a consortium and contract with the United States Agency for International Development to distribute food aid in Zimbabwe. Its cargo of wheat, beans and vegetable oil was intended for 26 primary schools, American officials said, part of a school feeding program that provides hungry children with one solid meal a day.

Misheck Kagurabadza, the former mayor of Mutare and a newly elected member of Parliament from Manicaland province, said the cut off of food from aid groups was devastating. The government has a monopoly on buying corn, Zimbabwe’s main staple food, from farmers and will only sell it to those who hold ZANU-PF party cards, he contends.

“The relief agencies stopped distribution of food a few days ago,” said Mr. Kagurabadza, one of many opposition leaders who have gone into hiding to avoid being beaten or arrested in a sweeping crackdown by ZANU-PF, the governing party. “I don’t know how we’ll survive until the next harvest.”
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« Reply #55 on: June 11, 2008, 06:48:36 PM »

Does Zimbabwe have any resources that'd make it you know matter to the first world? If not then I see zero reason for any form of intervention. Why spend blood and treasure for a pointless war?

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« Reply #56 on: June 16, 2008, 12:48:08 PM »

And so it continues...

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5i4kT7pJlnuzY_vpKdTACcQYIPcvQD91B80C80

Mugabe warns he will not cede power in Zimbabwe
By ANGUS SHAW

HARARE, Zimbabwe (AP) — President Robert Mugabe, campaigning for re-election in a presidential runoff June 27, reiterated that he will not cede power to Western-backed opponents, state media reported Monday.

"We shed a lot of blood for this country. We are not going to give up our country for a mere X" on a ballot. How can a ball point pen fight with a gun?" the Herald, a government mouthpiece, quoted Mugabe as saying.

Speaking in the local Shona language in the central Silobela district Sunday, Mugabe said the nation threw off colonial domination in a guerrilla war in 1980 — and his party is ready to fight again to stop the pro-Western Movement for Democratic Change from gaining control of the government.

Meanwhile, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, speaking in London with President Bush, said international observers must be allowed to monitor the runoff to avoid having Mugabe's "criminal regime" steal the election.

"(Mugabe's) criminal cabal ... threatens to make a mockery of free and fair elections in Zimbabwe," Brown said.

Bush said the U.S. would work with Britain and others to make sure the runoff poll is conducted to international standards.

"The people of Zimbabwe have suffered under the Mugabe leadership and we will work with you to ensure this process leads to free and fair elections, which obviously Mr. Mugabe does not want to happen," Bush said.

Also Monday, the secretary general of the MDC — the party's No. 2 leader — remained held in jail in western Harare, his lawyer said.

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« Reply #57 on: June 16, 2008, 12:58:24 PM »

Is there any way we can blame this on the Jews or Bush?  If not, nobody cares.
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« Reply #58 on: June 20, 2008, 06:51:14 AM »

Missed this thread. Anyway, it's quite obvious that The People Of Zimbabwe cannot overthrow Mugabe; if they could, they would have done so by now. Equally it's quite obvious that the idea of Western military intervention is pure fantasy; any such invasion would require the consent of neighbouring countries as Zimbabwe doesn't have a coastline (and so on). The chances of independent African countries agreeing to another independent African country being invaded by The West can be rated as being rather low.
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