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« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2008, 11:19:32 PM »

I think that the Texas primary/caucus hybrid system is really the best of the both worlds. You have a primary, which is unarguably more democratic and a better reflection of the will of the voters, but you also get a caucus, which is an important reflection of voter enthusiasm and really awesome for building the party. The Texas democratic party got something like 700,000 names from the caucus, a majority of which had phone numbers and emails, which will allow the party to more easily contact them for volunteering and donating money.

Also, caucuses are fun. Tongue Voting on resolutions and stuff after the presidential vote is very interesting, and it's nice to see members of your community that you rarely see debating political issues.
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« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2008, 11:19:51 PM »

I noticed a huge number of SD voters in the exit poll did not have a college education (62%) compared to about (52%) in Montana. It shows the clear correlation between the education levels and the votes for Clinton. I guess they just don't like Obama's Ivy League appearance.
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« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2008, 11:21:18 PM »

i f'ing hate the caucus system.  id say that if hillary won every single one of them.

what if i have social anxiety?  what if i dont want my neighbor knowing how i 'voted'?  what if im a single mother and have to tend to my kids at 7pm and cant make the caucus?

who cares about those people...eh?

I strongly agree with Mitty. Even though my candidate obviously benefited from its layout, the system is so undemocratic it makes me embarrassed to affiliate myself with the Democratic Party.

Because only Democrats have caucuses?

To the thread question, answer: Because the yuppies are actually a lot more Republican and the rural areas more Democratic (registration-wise) than was thought.

I didn't say the GOP's system was any better. Obviously, their WTA system is bullsh**t
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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2008, 11:22:18 PM »

i f'ing hate the caucus system.  id say that if hillary won every single one of them.

what if i have social anxiety?  what if i dont want my neighbor knowing how i 'voted'?  what if im a single mother and have to tend to my kids at 7pm and cant make the caucus?

who cares about those people...eh?

I strongly agree with Mitty. Even though my candidate obviously benefited from its layout, the system is so undemocratic it makes me embarrassed to affiliate myself with the Democratic Party.

Because only Democrats have caucuses?

To the thread question, answer: Because the yuppies are actually a lot more Republican and the rural areas more Democratic (registration-wise) than was thought.

I didn't say the GOP's system was any better. Obviously, their WTA system is bullsh**t

True, I'm just saying, caucuses aren't something related to the Democratic Party or something the Party should be blamed for.
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« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2008, 11:24:22 PM »

You can expect a very high turnout of Democrats in the Dakotas this fall.

obviously, strong obama. 

LOLZ CUZ DA DAKOTAS IS GONNA GO FOR OBAMANIAS!!!#$

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« Reply #30 on: June 03, 2008, 11:35:58 PM »



i f'ing hate the caucus system.  id say that if hillary won every single one of them.

what if i have social anxiety?  what if i dont want my neighbor knowing how i 'voted'?  what if im a single mother and have to tend to my kids at 7pm and cant make the caucus?

who cares about those people...eh?

Or if you're fighting in Iraq right now. Who cares about those guys, huh?

Completely agree.
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« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2008, 11:40:31 PM »

One of two things:

1. South Dakota dislikes establishment - Obama is viewed as the winner and thus establishment and they vote against him.

2. South Dakota and North Dakota are more similar than I thought.
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« Reply #32 on: June 04, 2008, 12:42:55 AM »

I think the Clintons out-hustled Obama here big time.  ND being a caucus helped him a lot in Feb but I think he also got a big lift from visiting states like Idaho.  Those states I think had a feeling back then that Obama was their guy and he took them seriously unlike all the other candidates.  This time around that feeling wasn't there.

This is pretty much me guessing and could be way off.

Still kind of strange that he won Utah and Montana convincingly, but SD was a no show.  I can only think that Hillary had a much better ground game there, and maybe not west enough.
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