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« on: February 12, 2008, 11:49:51 PM »

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/178290.php

LMAO. Just too good.
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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2008, 11:54:03 PM »

lol.  Apparently this DuHaime fellow isn't very reflective.
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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2008, 12:00:21 AM »

I thought this was going to be a joke thread.
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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2008, 12:07:31 AM »

Reminds me of this:

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/11/12/462680.aspx

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« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2008, 12:09:41 AM »

Something tells me this DuHaime guy might be lucky if he ends up as a campaign manager for a school board election now.
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2008, 12:15:46 AM »

I feel very, very confident, if you do this as a delegate game, this very much lines up very favorably for us.”
Total delegates won by Rudy Giuliani: 1.

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« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2008, 12:17:21 AM »

Giuliani not only ran far behind Paul in the delegate count, he tied Duncan Hunter.
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« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2008, 12:36:28 AM »

I feel very, very confident, if you do this as a delegate game, this very much lines up very favorably for us.”
Total delegates won by Rudy Giuliani: 1.

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of course, he would probably claim it was a good plan, but that it was just executed poorly
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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2008, 01:14:40 AM »

I feel very, very confident, if you do this as a delegate game, this very much lines up very favorably for us.”
Total delegates won by Rudy Giuliani: 1.

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of course, he would probably claim it was a good plan, but that it was just executed poorly

First, I approve of the Anton von Werner parody.  Smiley

Second, the plan is actually workable (though it will be difficult to carry out).  Hillary can continue to increase her delegates, just gaining some from each loss.  Then she wins outright in several big states, TX, OH, and PA.  While Obama gains, she will meet parity with him.

The problem is momentum.  Hillary cannot allow Obama to gain too much traction out of each win.  Just one or two poor performances sinks the plan.  The only real way to prevent that is to go negative on Obama.
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« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2008, 01:21:07 AM »

I feel very, very confident, if you do this as a delegate game, this very much lines up very favorably for us.”
Total delegates won by Rudy Giuliani: 1.

Grin

of course, he would probably claim it was a good plan, but that it was just executed poorly

First, I approve of the Anton von Werner parody.  Smiley

Second, the plan is actually workable (though it will be difficult to carry out).  Hillary can continue to increase her delegates, just gaining some from each loss.  Then she wins outright in several big states, TX, OH, and PA.  While Obama gains, she will meet parity with him.

The problem is momentum.  Hillary cannot allow Obama to gain too much traction out of each win.  Just one or two poor performances sinks the plan.  The only real way to prevent that is to go negative on Obama.

She has gone negative, it's just that all her attacks have either not worked or backfired.
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2008, 01:23:57 AM »

I feel very, very confident, if you do this as a delegate game, this very much lines up very favorably for us.”
Total delegates won by Rudy Giuliani: 1.

Grin

of course, he would probably claim it was a good plan, but that it was just executed poorly

First, I approve of the Anton von Werner parody.  Smiley

Second, the plan is actually workable (though it will be difficult to carry out).  Hillary can continue to increase her delegates, just gaining some from each loss.  Then she wins outright in several big states, TX, OH, and PA.  While Obama gains, she will meet parity with him.

The problem is momentum.  Hillary cannot allow Obama to gain too much traction out of each win.  Just one or two poor performances sinks the plan.  The only real way to prevent that is to go negative on Obama.

She has gone negative, it's just that all her attacks have either not worked or backfired.

Honestly her only clear shot at blocking his momentum is a significant win in Wisconsin, of which she seems to be ignoring.
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« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2008, 01:25:47 AM »

I feel very, very confident, if you do this as a delegate game, this very much lines up very favorably for us.”
Total delegates won by Rudy Giuliani: 1.

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The $62 million delegate.
Meanwhile, Huckabee has only spent around $50,000 per delegate.
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« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2008, 01:29:01 AM »

I feel very, very confident, if you do this as a delegate game, this very much lines up very favorably for us.”
Total delegates won by Rudy Giuliani: 1.

Grin

of course, he would probably claim it was a good plan, but that it was just executed poorly

First, I approve of the Anton von Werner parody.  Smiley

Second, the plan is actually workable (though it will be difficult to carry out).  Hillary can continue to increase her delegates, just gaining some from each loss.  Then she wins outright in several big states, TX, OH, and PA.  While Obama gains, she will meet parity with him.

The problem is momentum.  Hillary cannot allow Obama to gain too much traction out of each win.  Just one or two poor performances sinks the plan.  The only real way to prevent that is to go negative on Obama.

She has gone negative, it's just that all her attacks have either not worked or backfired.

Honestly her only clear shot at blocking his momentum is a significant win in Wisconsin, of which she seems to be ignoring.

she could still win: remember New Hampshire. Of course, back then she was still flush with cash and had had the aura of inevitability around her for about a year. Plus the crying trick worked but i don't think it would work again.
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« Reply #13 on: February 13, 2008, 01:29:16 AM »

I feel very, very confident, if you do this as a delegate game, this very much lines up very favorably for us.”
Total delegates won by Rudy Giuliani: 1.

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The $62 million delegate.
Meanwhile, Huckabee has only spent around $50,000 per delegate.

I take it want fiscally responsible Huckabee?  Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: February 13, 2008, 02:11:03 AM »

I feel very, very confident, if you do this as a delegate game, this very much lines up very favorably for us.”
Total delegates won by Rudy Giuliani: 1.

Grin

of course, he would probably claim it was a good plan, but that it was just executed poorly

First, I approve of the Anton von Werner parody.  Smiley

Second, the plan is actually workable (though it will be difficult to carry out).  Hillary can continue to increase her delegates, just gaining some from each loss.  Then she wins outright in several big states, TX, OH, and PA.  While Obama gains, she will meet parity with him.

The problem is momentum.  Hillary cannot allow Obama to gain too much traction out of each win.  Just one or two poor performances sinks the plan.  The only real way to prevent that is to go negative on Obama.

She has gone negative, it's just that all her attacks have either not worked or backfired.

Honestly her only clear shot at blocking his momentum is a significant win in Wisconsin, of which she seems to be ignoring.

she could still win: remember New Hampshire. Of course, back then she was still flush with cash and had had the aura of inevitability around her for about a year. Plus the crying trick worked but i don't think it would work again.

Plus she was actually CAMPAIGNING IN New Hampshire.
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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2008, 03:35:20 AM »

Actually, the proportional system the Democrats use make these losses far less damaging, so at the very least, this plan does make more sense than Rudy's "wait til FL" plan.  Besides... if A, B, C, D and F had all happened, Rudy would still be in this thing... obviously they didn't though.  That's the problem with making plans that are dependent on several independent events.
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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2008, 03:49:14 AM »

Every state prior to Florida was proportional on the GOP side too.
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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2008, 01:54:05 PM »

Actually, the proportional system the Democrats use make these losses far less damaging, so at the very least, this plan does make more sense than Rudy's "wait til FL" plan.

I'm not sure how the PR system makes the losses less damaging, as all the future primaries use PR as well, so that makes it all the harder to catch up once you've fallen behind.
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