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« on: December 30, 2007, 07:48:23 PM »

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/28/AR2007122800693.html

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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2007, 08:30:38 PM »

I'm taking bets on how long it will take for the RIAA to file a mass lawsuit against everyone over the age of 16 who isn't Alcon.
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2007, 09:43:45 PM »

Hahahahahaha.....they should just be happy people are even buying CD's. All they are doing is quickening the fall of the CD.
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2007, 09:46:21 PM »

Yeah... there's basically no point in buying CDs now if they're gonna do that.
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2007, 10:16:46 PM »

I will purposely not buy CDs from now on... which should be easy to do.  I haven't purchased a popular music CD (I've purchased some Christmas music or choral music) since 2002.
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« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2007, 11:00:40 AM »


This will be tossed, since prior rulings allowed the purchaser of a cassette to make a back-up copy of the cassette for personal use due to the fragility of the tape itself. 
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« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2007, 01:20:10 PM »
« Edited: December 31, 2007, 01:23:36 PM by Angry Weasel »

Hahahahahaha.....they should just be happy people are even buying CD's. All they are doing is quickening the fall of the CD.

Doesn't it just seem that by legally aiding CD recording artists, they are basically engaging in a form of regressive corporate welfare.  The RIAA is basically a welfare group for rich people. Not in getting transfer payments, but for the gaining of special property rights that makes it analogous to welfare.
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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2007, 01:25:48 PM »


This will be tossed, since prior rulings allowed the purchaser of a cassette to make a back-up copy of the cassette for personal use due to the fragility of the tape itself. 

Tapes disintegrate after time, CD's don't.  So, the comparison is certainly not that easy to make.

Still, I don't expect this to go forward much, mainly because of the infamous "time-shifting" precedent.
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« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2007, 01:35:31 PM »


This will be tossed, since prior rulings allowed the purchaser of a cassette to make a back-up copy of the cassette for personal use due to the fragility of the tape itself. 

Tapes disintegrate after time, CD's don't.  So, the comparison is certainly not that easy to make.

Still, I don't expect this to go forward much, mainly because of the infamous "time-shifting" precedent.

CDs certainly do lose quality after long periods of time due to changes in humidity, temperature, sunlight, and simply by being played.  Also, any scratch destroys the sound.

Keeping the original CD in a safe place and copying that music for other uses whether it be another blank CD to play in your car or at home or putting in on your computer and then your MP3 player should be completely legal.

In fact, iTunes tells you to make a backup copy of your music files every time you download from them.  Is iTunes condoning illegal behavior?

The record companies are being completely unreasonable to the point where I hope they fall hard.  I hope artists start marketing directly to stores, which is becoming easier as our retail choices shrink.
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« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2007, 01:38:35 PM »


This will be tossed, since prior rulings allowed the purchaser of a cassette to make a back-up copy of the cassette for personal use due to the fragility of the tape itself. 

Tapes disintegrate after time, CD's don't.  So, the comparison is certainly not that easy to make.

Still, I don't expect this to go forward much, mainly because of the infamous "time-shifting" precedent.

CDs certainly do lose quality after long periods of time due to changes in humidity, temperature, sunlight, and simply by being played.  Also, any scratch destroys the sound.

Keeping the original CD in a safe place and copying that music for other uses whether it be another blank CD to play in your car or at home or putting in on your computer and then your MP3 player should be completely legal.

In fact, iTunes tells you to make a backup copy of your music files every time you download from them.  Is iTunes condoning illegal behavior?

The record companies are being completely unreasonable to the point where I hope they fall hard.  I hope artists start marketing directly to stores, which is becoming easier as our retail choices shrink.

I understand your point, but if you keep CDs properly stored, etc. after playing, they stay the same.  I should know, because I do this myself.

Tapes, on the other hand, start disintegrating regardless of how well you store.

Whatever, it's a minor point.
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« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2007, 02:19:15 PM »


This will be tossed, since prior rulings allowed the purchaser of a cassette to make a back-up copy of the cassette for personal use due to the fragility of the tape itself. 

Hatch or Berman will introduce a bill to change it if the RIAA requests it.
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« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2008, 01:49:35 AM »

Tapes disintegrate after time, CD's don't.  So, the comparison is certainly not that easy to make.

Still, I don't expect this to go forward much, mainly because of the infamous "time-shifting" precedent.

I understand your point, but if you keep CDs properly stored, etc. after playing, they stay the same.  I should know, because I do this myself.

Tapes, on the other hand, start disintegrating regardless of how well you store.

Whatever, it's a minor point.

Cassette tapes don't disintegrate. I still have a bunch from the mid 90's that work fine. And my Dad has one that says "1981" on it, and it still plays just as good as the others.
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« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2008, 11:01:14 AM »

Yes, and CDs are vulerable to dust that damages their optical systems.
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2008, 09:03:34 AM »
« Edited: January 02, 2008, 09:07:49 AM by StateBoiler »

I understand your point, but if you keep CDs properly stored, etc. after playing, they stay the same.  I should know, because I do this myself.

Tapes, on the other hand, start disintegrating regardless of how well you store.

Whatever, it's a minor point.

I understand your point, but in the real world, defects and scratches and all that occur. Like when I'm going down the road listening to a CD and I go over a railroad track, it might cause a skip.

Eventually the RIAA will realize they are fighting a losing fight. Their customers have told them their business model is obsolete and they refuse to accept it. Until they do, they will continue to make less and less money.
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« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2008, 01:23:02 PM »

Reading that article, the only possibility that would justify the RIAA's lawsuit here would be if Mr. Howell left the MP3's he made from his CD's accessible to others.
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« Reply #15 on: January 07, 2008, 02:15:09 PM »

I haven't purchased a CD from a mainstream band since Bloodhound Gang released "Hooray for Boobies" in 1999.  I'll still buy CD's from NOFX and a few other indy punk bands, but I'll never walk into a music store and buy a Green Day CD (or whatever) again.  The music industry is only slightly less f-ed up than the movie industry, I don't mind "stealing" from either (ask me about my "DVD" collection!).
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