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« on: October 08, 2007, 03:00:13 PM »

The next initiatives will be in two weeks.  If anyone would like to propose any just post them here.
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« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2007, 03:09:15 PM »
« Edited: October 08, 2007, 03:11:58 PM by Vice-Chair Sensei »

Metric System Act
-All Mideast Government business shall be done in the Metric system by March 2008.
-Mideast schoolchildren are to begin learning rudimentary aspects of the metric system starting in First Grade, and beginning in the 08-09 school year.

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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2007, 04:06:37 PM »

Metric System Act
-All Mideast Government business shall be done in the Metric system by March 2008.
-Mideast schoolchildren are to begin learning rudimentary aspects of the metric system starting in First Grade, and beginning in the 08-09 school year.

x Sensei

Is this going to be an initiative, or are you going to propose this as a Proposition, Mr. Governor?
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2007, 09:56:32 PM »

Metric System Act
-All Mideast Government business shall be done in the Metric system by March 2008.
-Mideast schoolchildren are to begin learning rudimentary aspects of the metric system starting in First Grade, and beginning in the 08-09 school year.

x Sensei

Is this going to be an initiative, or are you going to propose this as a Proposition, Mr. Governor?

I'll just do the one proposition.
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2007, 10:22:54 PM »

Metric System Act
-All Mideast Government business shall be done in the Metric system by March 2008.
-Mideast schoolchildren are to begin learning rudimentary aspects of the metric system starting in First Grade, and beginning in the 08-09 school year.

x Sensei

Is this going to be an initiative, or are you going to propose this as a Proposition, Mr. Governor?

I'll just do the one proposition.

The one meaning my amendment or the one meaning my amendment + this one?
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2007, 10:25:15 PM »

Metric System Act
-All Mideast Government business shall be done in the Metric system by March 2008.
-Mideast schoolchildren are to begin learning rudimentary aspects of the metric system starting in First Grade, and beginning in the 08-09 school year.

x Sensei

Is this going to be an initiative, or are you going to propose this as a Proposition, Mr. Governor?

I'll just do the one proposition.

The one meaning my amendment or the one meaning my amendment + this one?

Just the amendment
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« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2007, 07:13:53 AM »
« Edited: October 15, 2007, 12:01:59 PM by Governor HappyWarrior »

Anti-Union Busting Proposition

-Union busting will be legally defined as a practice that is undertaken by an employer or their agents to prevent employees from joining a labor union, or to disempower, subvert, or destroy unions that already exist.
-The above practice will be made illegal in the Mideast Region in order to protect the rights of citizen workers in the region.
-Punishments for companies may include large fines totalling no more than twenty five percent of their annual income for that year that the union was affected by the afformentioned practice.
-Any groups made exclusivly to disband or damage unions will be broken up, with their individual members receive jail time of no more than six months or fines of no more than $1,000.  Those who work for the company who are outside the union are not included

Any alterations that would make this proposition more acceptable to the voting members of the region will be much appreciated.
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« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2007, 11:07:38 AM »

Anti-Union Busting Proposition

-Union busting will be legally defined as a practice that is undertaken by an employer or their agents to prevent employees from joining a labor union, or to disempower, subvert, or destroy unions that already exist.
-This sort of The above practice will be made illegal in the Mideast Region in order to protect the right of citizen workers in the region.
-Punishments for companies may include large fines totalling no more than twenty five percent of their annual income for that year and ten percent of their total company monetary availability.  Are these added together, or is it whichever is smaller - if so, I'd say or, instead of "and" and add a clause indicating that the punishment would cap at the smaller amount.
-Any groups made exclusivly to disband or damage unions will be broken up, with their individual members receive receiving jail time of no more than one year.  This clause scares me, because then anybody who challenges unions, even outside of the company could be punished.  Even workers who refused to strike and go to work could be punished for "damaging the union" - I'd remove this or greatly reword it.
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« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2007, 11:58:44 AM »

Anti-Union Busting Proposition

-Union busting will be legally defined as a practice that is undertaken by an employer or their agents to prevent employees from joining a labor union, or to disempower, subvert, or destroy unions that already exist.
-This sort of The above practice will be made illegal in the Mideast Region in order to protect the right of citizen workers in the region.
-Punishments for companies may include large fines totalling no more than twenty five percent of their annual income for that year and ten percent of their total company monetary availability.  Are these added together, or is it whichever is smaller - if so, I'd say or, instead of "and" and add a clause indicating that the punishment would cap at the smaller amount.
-Any groups made exclusivly to disband or damage unions will be broken up, with their individual members receive receiving jail time of no more than one year.  This clause scares me, because then anybody who challenges unions, even outside of the company could be punished.  Even workers who refused to strike and go to work could be punished for "damaging the union" - I'd remove this or greatly reword it.

The last clause is made for groups that are exclusivly founded as they say to disband unions, and nothing more will be punished, if the workers who are'nt working with the union go, they  will not fall under this clause.
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« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2007, 12:14:10 PM »

Anti-Union Busting Proposition

-Union busting will be legally defined as a practice that is undertaken by an employer or their agents to prevent employees from joining a labor union, or to disempower, subvert, or destroy unions that already exist.
-This sort of The above practice will be made illegal in the Mideast Region in order to protect the right of citizen workers in the region.
-Punishments for companies may include large fines totalling no more than twenty five percent of their annual income for that year and ten percent of their total company monetary availability.  Are these added together, or is it whichever is smaller - if so, I'd say or, instead of "and" and add a clause indicating that the punishment would cap at the smaller amount.
-Any groups made exclusivly to disband or damage unions will be broken up, with their individual members receive receiving jail time of no more than one year.  This clause scares me, because then anybody who challenges unions, even outside of the company could be punished.  Even workers who refused to strike and go to work could be punished for "damaging the union" - I'd remove this or greatly reword it.

The last clause is made for groups that are exclusivly founded as they say to disband unions, and nothing more will be punished, if the workers who are'nt working with the union go, they  will not fall under this clause.

Your intentions for the last clause may be good, but the result may be different.
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« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2007, 01:20:13 PM »

Anti-Union Busting Proposition

-Union busting will be legally defined as a practice that is undertaken by an employer or their agents to prevent employees from joining a labor union, or to disempower, subvert, or destroy unions that already exist.
-This sort of The above practice will be made illegal in the Mideast Region in order to protect the right of citizen workers in the region.
-Punishments for companies may include large fines totalling no more than twenty five percent of their annual income for that year and ten percent of their total company monetary availability.  Are these added together, or is it whichever is smaller - if so, I'd say or, instead of "and" and add a clause indicating that the punishment would cap at the smaller amount.
-Any groups made exclusivly to disband or damage unions will be broken up, with their individual members receive receiving jail time of no more than one year.  This clause scares me, because then anybody who challenges unions, even outside of the company could be punished.  Even workers who refused to strike and go to work could be punished for "damaging the union" - I'd remove this or greatly reword it.

The last clause is made for groups that are exclusivly founded as they say to disband unions, and nothing more will be punished, if the workers who are'nt working with the union go, they  will not fall under this clause.

Your intentions for the last clause may be good, but the result may be different.

How could that be interepreted differently than intended, the fact that it says exclusivly should make it so that nobody but the targets are affected.
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« Reply #11 on: October 15, 2007, 02:30:20 PM »

Anti-Union Busting Proposition

-Union busting will be legally defined as a practice that is undertaken by an employer or their agents to prevent employees from joining a labor union, or to disempower, subvert, or destroy unions that already exist.
-This sort of The above practice will be made illegal in the Mideast Region in order to protect the right of citizen workers in the region.
-Punishments for companies may include large fines totalling no more than twenty five percent of their annual income for that year and ten percent of their total company monetary availability.  Are these added together, or is it whichever is smaller - if so, I'd say or, instead of "and" and add a clause indicating that the punishment would cap at the smaller amount.
-Any groups made exclusivly to disband or damage unions will be broken up, with their individual members receive receiving jail time of no more than one year.  This clause scares me, because then anybody who challenges unions, even outside of the company could be punished.  Even workers who refused to strike and go to work could be punished for "damaging the union" - I'd remove this or greatly reword it.

The last clause is made for groups that are exclusivly founded as they say to disband unions, and nothing more will be punished, if the workers who are'nt working with the union go, they  will not fall under this clause.

Your intentions for the last clause may be good, but the result may be different.

How could that be interepreted differently than intended, the fact that it says exclusivly should make it so that nobody but the targets are affected.

But a group of scabs could be considered a group made to damage unions.
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« Reply #12 on: October 15, 2007, 09:41:39 PM »

Anti-Union Busting Proposition

-Union busting will be legally defined as a practice that is undertaken by an employer or their agents to prevent employees from joining a labor union, or to disempower, subvert, or destroy unions that already exist.
-This sort of The above practice will be made illegal in the Mideast Region in order to protect the right of citizen workers in the region.
-Punishments for companies may include large fines totalling no more than twenty five percent of their annual income for that year and ten percent of their total company monetary availability.  Are these added together, or is it whichever is smaller - if so, I'd say or, instead of "and" and add a clause indicating that the punishment would cap at the smaller amount.
-Any groups made exclusivly to disband or damage unions will be broken up, with their individual members receive receiving jail time of no more than one year.  This clause scares me, because then anybody who challenges unions, even outside of the company could be punished.  Even workers who refused to strike and go to work could be punished for "damaging the union" - I'd remove this or greatly reword it.

The last clause is made for groups that are exclusivly founded as they say to disband unions, and nothing more will be punished, if the workers who are'nt working with the union go, they  will not fall under this clause.

Your intentions for the last clause may be good, but the result may be different.

How could that be interepreted differently than intended, the fact that it says exclusivly should make it so that nobody but the targets are affected.

But a group of scabs could be considered a group made to damage unions.

If that is their sole purpose then yes.  If they just want work they are'nt.
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« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2007, 06:14:58 PM »

Anti-Union Busting Proposition

-Union busting will be legally defined as a practice that is undertaken by an employer or their agents to prevent employees from joining a labor union, or subvert, stop workers right to join,  or destroy unions that already exist.
-The above practice will be made illegal in the Mideast Region in order to protect the rights of citizen workers in the region.
-Punishments for companies may include large fines totalling no more than twenty five percent of their annual income for that year that the union was affected by the afformentioned practice.

Any alterations that would make this proposition more acceptable to the voting members of the region will be much appreciated.
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« Reply #14 on: October 17, 2007, 06:49:23 PM »

When do you plan on opening the voting booth?
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« Reply #15 on: October 17, 2007, 07:36:25 PM »
« Edited: October 18, 2007, 07:09:34 AM by Governor HappyWarrior »


Friday at noon most likely.
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« Reply #16 on: October 18, 2007, 01:52:11 PM »


That's not legal.  It has to be opened by Friday at 12:01 A.M. EST.  If you can't, Frodo has resigned, so MasterJedi will have to open the booth.
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« Reply #17 on: October 18, 2007, 02:17:25 PM »


That's not legal.  It has to be opened by Friday at 12:01 A.M. EST.  If you can't, Frodo has resigned, so MasterJedi will have to open the booth.
or you can let it slide?
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« Reply #18 on: October 18, 2007, 02:32:12 PM »


That's not legal.  It has to be opened by Friday at 12:01 A.M. EST.  If you can't, Frodo has resigned, so MasterJedi will have to open the booth.
or you can let it slide?

Yeah, I don't care - it's up to MJ whether or not he'll open it - I could care less when the booth opens, I was just letting the Governor know that it may already be done by noon tomorrow.
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