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« on: September 07, 2007, 01:23:45 PM »

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070906/ap_on_el_pr/candidates_religion_poll

Poll: Clinton, Giuliani least religious By ALAN FRAM, Associated Press Writer
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WASHINGTON - People view Hillary Rodham Clinton and Rudy Giuliani as the least religious of the major presidential candidates, according to a poll released Thursday. Mitt Romney was seen as most religious, but his Mormonism may hurt him with voters.

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Seven in 10 in the nonpartisan Pew Research Center poll said they believe it is important for a president to have strong religious beliefs, including broad majorities of both parties. Most also see each major presidential hopeful as at least somewhat religious — important because people who view a candidate that way are likelier to have a favorable opinion of them.

Of those expressing an opinion on the candidates' beliefs, 46 percent said they consider Romney, a Republican contender, to be very religious, far more than any other candidate. Yet a quarter of all Republicans — including 36 percent of white evangelical Protestants — said they would be less likely to vote for a Mormon.

Romney spokesman Kevin Madden said the former Massachusetts governor has "the same hopes and aspirations for his country" as voters, adding, "Any sort of abstract aversion toward him because of his denomination will likely fade."

Giuliani, the former New York mayor, was considered very religious by 14 percent, while 16 percent said the same of Clinton, the Democratic New York senator.

Clinton has spoken often of her Methodist upbringing and said her religion helped hold her marriage together. Giuliani, a divorced Roman Catholic who favors abortion rights, has said his relationship with God is private.

"There are many things about Senator Clinton that people don't know and one of those things is that she is a person of faith," said Clinton spokesman Phil Singer.

"We're encouraged by the support Mayor Giuliani continues to receive across the Republican Party," said Giuliani spokeswoman Maria Comella.

The survey found 31 percent of Republicans know of Giuliani's abortion-rights views. He is seen about equally favorably by Republicans who are, and are not, aware of that.

Half in the poll said the GOP is friendly toward religion while 30 percent said the same about the Democrats. It also found that while 38 percent said social issues like abortion will be very important in deciding their vote for president, about double said the same about the war in Iraq and domestic issues like the economy.

John C. Green, senior fellow at the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life, said the poll showed a candidate's religion is "not always the most important factor, but one important factor" for voters.

The survey was conducted by the Pew religion forum and the Pew Research Center for the People and the Press. It involved telephone interviews with 3,002 randomly chosen adults conducted from August 1 to 18, and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 2 percentage points.
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One thing I find very interesting is, though a large majority of Republicans don't know Rudy's possition on abortion, there is almost no difference in the level of support from those that do and those that don't.
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« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2007, 01:28:36 PM »

Maybe we'll hear stories about how Giuliani was denied Catholic communion because he has John Kerry's position on abortion. Oh, wait, he's a Republican, of course we won't hear stories like that.
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« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2007, 01:33:12 PM »

Really? I would've guessed Obama! Is it just me, or is he obviously an atheist who simply realizes he must pretend to be Christian in order to have any chance at the presidency?
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« Reply #3 on: September 07, 2007, 01:42:00 PM »

Maybe we'll hear stories about how Giuliani was denied Catholic communion because he has John Kerry's position on abortion. Oh, wait, he's a Republican, of course we won't hear stories like that.

Ummmm... no, we won't hear those stories because he is already refused communion because of his divorce and remarriage.

You attempted hit on Rudy and the Catholic Church was poorly concieved.
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« Reply #4 on: September 07, 2007, 01:47:26 PM »

With regards to Republicans who know Giuliani's position on abortion being no less supportive of him than those that don't, that's not really surprising, because obviously his supporters are more likely to know what his positions than those who don't support him. Socially moderate to liberal Republicans who are attracted to him for other reasons are more likely to take the time to get to know his positions, so it doesn't necessarily prove that Giuliani's abortion position won't eventually hurt him with those who don't yet know about it.

It can't be a good sign for the religious right that the candidates who are leading in national polls for both party's nominations are also those seen as the least religious.
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« Reply #5 on: September 07, 2007, 01:57:34 PM »

With regards to Republicans who know Giuliani's position on abortion being no less supportive of him than those that don't, that's not really surprising, because obviously his supporters are more likely to know what his positions than those who don't support him. Socially moderate to liberal Republicans who are attracted to him for other reasons are more likely to take the time to get to know his positions, so it doesn't necessarily prove that Giuliani's abortion position won't eventually hurt him with those who don't yet know about it.
Not necessarily "his supporters" - more likely just a class and age issue - but yeah, that this does not prove what Soulty wants it to prove is pretty obvious.
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« Reply #6 on: September 07, 2007, 02:11:27 PM »

Is it just me, or is he obviously an atheist who simply realizes he must pretend to be Christian in order to have any chance at the presidency?

I think it's just you. He became a devout Christian shortly after graduating from college, so it's been more than 20 years now.
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« Reply #7 on: September 07, 2007, 03:35:56 PM »

Really? I would've guessed Obama! Is it just me, or is he obviously an atheist who simply realizes he must pretend to be Christian in order to have any chance at the presidency?

No, he is a religious.
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« Reply #8 on: September 07, 2007, 04:23:34 PM »

Really? I would've guessed Obama! Is it just me, or is he obviously an atheist who simply realizes he must pretend to be Christian in order to have any chance at the presidency?

You know he's always given me that impression as well. I always thought his whole "I found Jesus" thing was rather canned and used to help him in the political sphere. I mean he joined one of the most liberal Christian organizations there is, the United Church of Christ, bar Unitarian Univeralism, which many don't see as a Christian denomination.
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« Reply #9 on: September 07, 2007, 05:32:55 PM »

Good. I hope the religious right is made to heel. Christian fundamentalism is nothing but evil.
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« Reply #10 on: September 07, 2007, 06:02:22 PM »

Non-religious people support Obama.
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