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« on: May 05, 2007, 09:09:51 AM »

I found this article very revealing in what may be the Democrats breakneck strategy and the GOP's doom in 2008 - I´d like to see your opinions on it:

Democrats find religion on campaign trail

GOP seems to be avoiding talk of faith

By Mike Dorning
Washington Bureau
Published May 6, 2007

WASHINGTON -- This time it may be the Democrats who are getting religion.

Former Sen. John Edwards invoked "My Lord" in the first Democratic presidential debate when asked about moral influences on his life. At a campaign event on the day of the Virginia Tech massacre, he offered a prayer and—in a pointed break from Democratic candidates' usual wariness of offending religious minorities—closed with the words "in Christ's name."

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) comfortably works in references to his faith at public appearances. Even before his presidential candidacy, he gave a well-received speech arguing for a greater role for religion in politics and cultivated relationships with influential church leaders, including mega-church pastor and best-selling author Rick Warren.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) included a paragraph about faith in the official biography on her campaign Web site. And in her Senate re-election campaign last year, she drew notice in the New York press for wearing a cross at some public events.

Reversing recent political history, it's the leading Republican candidates who for various reasons have so far been reluctant to speak too much about matters of faith.

Former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, a divorced Catholic, holds liberal views on abortion and gay rights. Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), a divorced Episcopalian, has a tense relationship with leaders of the Religious Right. And former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney is a devout Mormon whose religion arouses suspicion among many evangelicals.

"Give the advantage to the Democrats at this point," said Rich Cizik, vice president for governmental affairs for the National Association of Evangelicals. "You would have to conclude that the Democrats have a lot more interest in faith than the Republicans based on what they've had to say."

Obama and Clinton both have full-time staffers and Edwards an aide working part time to reach out to religious leaders for political support. The Democrats' 2004 presidential nominee, Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), did not start a religious outreach operation until the general election was well under way and did not give a speech on faith until nine days before the election.

"It's almost a 180-degree difference from the Kerry campaign," said Mara Vanderslice, who was director of religious outreach for Kerry and now works as a consultant to Democratic candidates on engaging religious voters. She is not currently working for a presidential campaign, she said.

All three of the leading Democratic candidates are scheduled to appear next month at a forum on faith and values sponsored by Sojourners/Call to Renewal, a liberal evangelical group that concentrates on anti-poverty issues. Religious leaders will question the candidates on their moral beliefs and how they shape their public policy views, said Rev. Jim Wallis, the group's president.

The shift in interest is partly due to the mix of candidates in the current presidential campaign. Clinton, a Methodist, and Edwards, a Baptist, both had strong religious upbringings. Though raised in a secular household, Obama converted as an adult at Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago's South Side.

But the focus on faith also reflects political realities. Many Democratic political professionals believe the party's candidates need to do a better a job of showing a clear moral vision and connecting with religious voters.

Most wouldn't elect atheist

Faith has long had a role in American politics. Surveys over the years have regularly found that a majority of the country would not vote for an atheist as president. A 2004 poll co-sponsored by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life found that nearly 70 percent of Americans felt it was important for a president to have "strong religious beliefs."

The last two Democrats elected to the presidency both were comfortable speaking about their faith. Jimmy Carter's status as a "born-again" Christian was the subject of much discussion during his campaign. A Baptist by upbringing and a regular churchgoer, Bill Clinton was at ease quoting Scripture and appearing in religious settings.

But by the 1990s, Clinton was the exception. Expressions of faith were rare at campaign events for Democratic candidates. And the party's last two presidential candidates, Kerry and Al Gore, rarely spoke of their religious beliefs in their campaigns.

"I think, generically speaking, Democrats were reluctant to speak about their faith," said former Rep. David Bonior (D-Mich.), now Edwards' campaign manager. "There was a feeling that the separation [between church and state] should be such that you really shouldn't even talk about it. I think we went too far."

Expressions of faith can be more politically tricky for Democrats than Republicans because their party includes more secular voters and more members of religious minorities, such as Jews and Muslims.

But party leaders were alarmed by the 2004 election returns. The Democrats narrowly lost the presidential election, and one big reason was massive support for Republicans among the large portion of voters who regularly attend religious services. In a close election, even a slight gain in support from such a sizable group could swing the outcome.

A series of internal polls by the Democratic National Committee during the next year concluded that about half the electorate places as much or more weight on their own religious faith as they do on conventional issues in casting their votes. The same polling suggested that many of those "faith voters" were not primarily motivated by such hot-button social issues as abortion or gay marriage but mainly were looking for a clear moral vision from candidates.

Attracting 'faith voters'

Since then, Democratic candidates who have made it a priority to engage voters on issues of faith have done well in some high-visibility competitive races. In 2005, Virginia Democratic Gov. Tim Kaine, a former Catholic lay missionary, won despite heavy criticism from his opponent for opposing the death penalty, which is popular in Virginia. Kaine explained his position as a matter of religious conviction.

In last year's midterm elections, Democrats in Pennsylvania, Ohio and Michigan also won competitive elections and did well among churchgoers after waging early and concerted efforts to attract religious voters.

Ohio Gov. Ted Strickland, an abortion-rights supporter and an ordained minister, virtually tied his Republican opponent among white evangelicals. Strickland advertised early on Christian radio, met often during his campaign with faith leaders and used phone banks staffed by Catholic nuns and religious volunteers to explain his positions to swing religious voters.

While social conservatives may be firmly anchored in the Republican Party, there are also signs that religious Americans more broadly are growing increasingly interested in issues that favor Democrats.

Catholic congregations are increasingly discontented with the war in Iraq, which the church's hierarchy has vigorously opposed from the start.

At the same time, many prominent evangelical leaders have sought to broaden the movement's public policy agenda beyond such traditional cultural issues as abortion, gay rights and prayer in schools, which tend to favor Republicans. Evangelicals are showing interest in AIDS in Africa, the genocide in Darfur and "creation care," their preferred term for environmental protection.

Tweaking abortion rhetoric

Some Democratic political leaders, meanwhile, have sought to adjust their rhetoric on abortion to tamp down hostility toward the party's abortion-rights position.

Many Democratic candidates in recent years have altered the way they speak about their abortion-rights stands, stressing their respect for the positions of those who are morally opposed. Clinton called abortion a "sad, even tragic choice" in a 2005 speech, stirring criticism from abortion-rights groups. And some Democratic lawmakers have gathered behind legislative proposals explicitly aimed at reducing the number of abortions, through aid for contraception and assistance to expectant mothers.

Still, last month's Supreme Court decision upholding a ban on a procedure opponents call "partial-birth" abortion may stir passions on both sides of the abortion controversy.

"We're very likely to see some increased activism," said John Green, a senior fellow at the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life. "How it plays out is just so hard to tell right now."

Whatever direction the battles over abortion may take, the leading Democratic presidential candidates appear committed to a more visible role for faith in their campaigns. Obama, for one, argues that the party can only win popular support for progressive goals if it makes the case in the moral terms that religion offers.

And Wallis argues that it is entirely appropriate to look beyond candidates' views on the issues of the moment toward their moral core in order to gain insight on how they might respond to the unanticipated challenges they are sure to face as elected officeholders.

"It's fair for any citizen to evaluate a candidate by their moral compass," Wallis said. "Politics should be about values. That's the right conversation. Your moral compass shapes your values and, for some people, that's their faith."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/politics/chi-070506dems-story,1,3287326.story?page=2&coll=chi-news-hed
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« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2007, 12:55:36 PM »

Its a balance...if the Dems, for a prolonged period of time (note prolonged, one cycle may not be enough), seem to go towards a religious populist message (away from the more secular DLC grouping)...then they risk losing the vote blocks that they earned during the 1990s (more affuelent suburban voters in the North and possibly west coast who aren't necessarily atheist or not religious, but tend to shy away from that folksy image which caused and is causing the GOP's decline in its own former strongholds).

If the Dems can maintain a balance and not be seen going too far in one direction as opposed to the other, then perhaps they can build a bigger coalition that is more likely to win elections. They just have to be careful.
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« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2007, 01:07:56 PM »

Its a balance...if the Dems, for a prolonged period of time (note prolonged, one cycle may not be enough), seem to go towards a religious populist message (away from the more secular DLC grouping)...then they risk losing the vote blocks that they earned during the 1990s (more affuelent suburban voters in the North and possibly west coast who aren't necessarily atheist or not religious, but tend to shy away from that folksy image which caused and is causing the GOP's decline in its own former strongholds).

Not really, there's a big double standard here.

The difference is that when Democrats talk about religion people don't get worried and thinking about theocracy. If any Republican does, they get pigeonholed as a hardcore religious righter.
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« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2007, 01:12:17 PM »
« Edited: May 09, 2007, 01:14:49 PM by bullmoose88 »

Its a balance...if the Dems, for a prolonged period of time (note prolonged, one cycle may not be enough), seem to go towards a religious populist message (away from the more secular DLC grouping)...then they risk losing the vote blocks that they earned during the 1990s (more affuelent suburban voters in the North and possibly west coast who aren't necessarily atheist or not religious, but tend to shy away from that folksy image which caused and is causing the GOP's decline in its own former strongholds).

Not really, there's a big double standard here.

The difference is that when Democrats talk about religion people don't get worried and thinking about theocracy. If any Republican does, they get pigeonholed as a hardcore religious righter.

See thats why I said, prolonged.

The GOP wasnt thought of as the religious party save in the last 10-15 years, precisely the period when it lost the very areas I was talking about.

Now of course, the GOP did try and pander to the folksy types as early as the 1960s and didn't start seeming credible until the 1980s...

The timetable for the dems might be shorter or longer depending on how overt they are.

But they can hold a balance for at least a cycle or two, if not more.
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« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2007, 07:20:45 AM »

Its a balance...if the Dems, for a prolonged period of time (note prolonged, one cycle may not be enough), seem to go towards a religious populist message (away from the more secular DLC grouping)...then they risk losing the vote blocks that they earned during the 1990s (more affuelent suburban voters in the North and possibly west coast who aren't necessarily atheist or not religious, but tend to shy away from that folksy image which caused and is causing the GOP's decline in its own former strongholds).

If the Dems can maintain a balance and not be seen going too far in one direction as opposed to the other, then perhaps they can build a bigger coalition that is more likely to win elections. They just have to be careful.

Seems the Democrats are exactly on that way:

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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/16/us/politics/16populist.html?ref=us

I´m curious how this religious-economic-populist message works out in 2008. At least in 2006 it worked out well for the Democrats ...
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« Reply #5 on: August 04, 2007, 12:16:15 PM »

Ugh. Religious populism. We already have one populist party(The GOP) we don't need another.
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