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« Reply #175 on: April 14, 2024, 10:17:13 PM »

It is parents who decide this question for minor children, and parents, alone, that should decide (along with a doctor, of course).  You might be surprised as to how many people aren't down with that.

And you might be surprised by how many parents don't agree with you.

The vast majority of the cases in America right now where a school doesn't recognize the gender identity that the parents want are cases where the parents support the gender transition, but the school does not (whether that's the principal's call or a red state where the government forces the school to do that). OSR's previous position of "just recognize the student as whatever gender the parents say" is going to be an improvement or equal (from a pro-trans perspective) almost every time.

For most Republicans (not just you), it's like yall just can't fathom the idea that parents might be supportive of their children in the instances, so this basic fact just doesn't register.

As to treatment of individual children, I'm sure some parents don't agree with me.  That's fine, and I do get it.  

As to every day life, this issue doesn't make a difference in the classroom or the workplace.  It makes a difference in competitive women's sports.  And, no, I do not think that this is a burden that biological female scholastic athletes should have to bear or deal with.  Scholastic Women's Sports should be for biological females, period.
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« Reply #176 on: April 15, 2024, 12:31:12 AM »

Studies demonstrate that Men have an advantage in muscle force and power-producing capacity, anthropometric characteristics, cardiorespiratory capacity and metabolic factors.  Many of these benefits are retained despite Hormone Therapies due to the different body structures of Men and Women (Wide v. Narrow Hips).  Regardless, the vast amount of info with the largest numbers of participants overwhelms studies which advocate for Transwomen competing in female sex divisions based on lower testosterone levels.  In fact, the initial 2015 study initially utilized to support transgender women (biological men) in Biological Female sports never looked at these factors, disregarded other factors contributed to reported times (survey studies almost always provide biased info), and contained very few participants of varying ages (keep this in mind).  The following study dismantles the 2015 research that was used by the Olympics. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9331831/

Advocates of transwomen/biological men in female sex sports speak about a small amount of data in relation to the subject to gaslight people into thinking there's little research on the subject, because they don't have probative scientific data to defend their policy and ignore data demonstrating other factors besides testosterone suppressants playing a role in transwomen closing the performance gap. For example, older women over 50 close the gap on Men due to a variety of health reasons like coronary heart problems.  This was the precise issue in the 2015 study.    
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9331831/    

Trans advocates will claim that all these advantages occur after puberty in an attempt to bolster arguments for early medical interventions to transition someone from male to the trans female gender.  This is false.  There are numerous advantages that are noticeable before Puberty, and some that occur in toddlers. For Instance, "Around the world, at all ages, boys throw better - a lot better - than girls. Studies of overhand ball throwing across different cultures have found that prepubescent girls throw 51 percent to 69 percent of the distance that boys do, at 51 percent to 78 percent of the velocity."  These advantages start at the age of 4.  
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2012/nov/05/big-windup-20121105/

I've watched countless examples of Transwomen destroying women in sporting events.  I've seen women physically dominated in every sport, thrown around in contact sports like basketball, and completely disabled in fights with untrained opponents despite having better technique.  Any Trans fascist claiming this hasn't happened is gaslighting, because they think the needs of Transperson to feel included is more important than the mental and physical well-being of biological women that were granted this league due to their inability to compete with men, and receive rewards, funds and an opportunity to play competitive sports.  
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s40279-020-01389-3

People are trying to accommodate transpeople, but this policy is destructive to the goals of women and the LGBTQ diehards.  I can help people cope with a mental disorder by pretending it's not one, and I can call them by their pronoun and use different word if it's not something stupid like 'they', or offensive like 'Birthing Person'.  I can pretend a man is a women or a women is man, but I'm not going to let Transpeople harm the rest of society because they need to feel included in everything.  If I can be excluded for scholarships cause of my skin color and sex cause of my alleged ancestral advantage, then Transwomen-Man can be excluded for a current physical advantage.  
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« Reply #177 on: April 22, 2024, 12:43:07 AM »

Trans women should have the same right to compete with cis women in a sport league. Why should they face off against athletes of the opposite gender identification?
Because sports/washrooms should be separated based on sex, not gender, as they have been for centuries.
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« Reply #178 on: April 22, 2024, 06:28:26 AM »

Trans women should have the same right to compete with cis women in a sport league. Why should they face off against athletes of the opposite gender identification?
Because sports/washrooms should be separated based on sex, not gender, as they have been for centuries.

I was never once made to show my genitals, give a chromosome test, or produce my birth certificate to gain entry to any washroom or locker room in my life. They have always been divided by a combination of gender identity and arbitary social markers (such as when butch cis women are excluded from women-only spaces).
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