SB 119-03: The People's Veto

[RFayette 🇻🇦]

Aye

[nerd73]

Nay

[reagente]

Aye

[ChiefFireWaterMike]

Aye

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Nay
Like the idea in theory, but this is probably too still too loose.

[Adam Griffin]

Nay

[P. Clodius Pulcher did nothing wrong]

Abstain

[GM Team Member and Deputy PPT WB]

96 hours passed at Feb 4 at 12:06 pm. As such votes past then are not counted and will not be counted unless a senator asks for a rules suspension to count votes past that deadline.

Aye: 6 (MB, Muaddib, fhtagn, CM, TPH, Reagente)
Nay: 5 (Pyro, WB, LT, Jay, Nerd)

The bill passes. Considering the amount of votes past the deadline I will wait to present this to the president (as well as update the wall of shame) in case a senator wishes to count votes made to this point, which would result in a 7-7 tie.

There is also the question of counting Laki’s vote as he was a senator at the time but is not one now. If his vote is counted the bill would be tied, or it fails if all votes are counted

[Joseph Cao]

There is also the question of counting Laki’s vote as he was a senator at the time but is not one now. If his vote is counted the bill would be tied, or it fails if all votes are counted

I don't think there is a scenario where a senator's vote would cease to count outside of a departing senator being replaced, at the start of a new session or otherwise, which hasn't happened here.

With regard to the count I would be inclined to include the late votes because seven not voting is pretty bad, but I am not a floor officer and personal preference will always play a role in these matters.

[fhtagn]

96 hours passed at Feb 4 at 12:06 pm. As such votes past then are not counted and will not be counted unless a senator asks for a rules suspension to count votes past that deadline.

Aye: 6 (MB, Muaddib, fhtagn, CM, TPH, Reagente)
Nay: 5 (Pyro, WB, LT, Jay, Nerd)

The bill passes. Considering the amount of votes past the deadline I will wait to present this to the president (as well as update the wall of shame) in case a senator wishes to count votes made to this point, which would result in a 7-7 tie.

There is also the question of counting Laki’s vote as he was a senator at the time but is not one now. If his vote is counted the bill would be tied, or it fails if all votes are counted

Looks like you missed Rfayette

[At-Large Senator LouisvilleThunder]

96 hours passed at Feb 4 at 12:06 pm. As such votes past then are not counted and will not be counted unless a senator asks for a rules suspension to count votes past that deadline.

Aye: 6 (MB, Muaddib, fhtagn, CM, TPH, Reagente)
Nay: 5 (Pyro, WB, LT, Jay, Nerd)

The bill passes. Considering the amount of votes past the deadline I will wait to present this to the president (as well as update the wall of shame) in case a senator wishes to count votes made to this point, which would result in a 7-7 tie.

There is also the question of counting Laki’s vote as he was a senator at the time but is not one now. If his vote is counted the bill would be tied, or it fails if all votes are counted

I motion to count all the votes.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

96 hours passed at Feb 4 at 12:06 pm. As such votes past then are not counted and will not be counted unless a senator asks for a rules suspension to count votes past that deadline.

Aye: 6 (MB, Muaddib, fhtagn, CM, TPH, Reagente)
Nay: 5 (Pyro, WB, LT, Jay, Nerd)

The bill passes. Considering the amount of votes past the deadline I will wait to present this to the president (as well as update the wall of shame) in case a senator wishes to count votes made to this point, which would result in a 7-7 tie.

There is also the question of counting Laki’s vote as he was a senator at the time but is not one now. If his vote is counted the bill would be tied, or it fails if all votes are counted

Is there precedent for stripping a senator's vote out of a tally if they have resigned?

[GM Team Member and Deputy PPT WB]

96 hours passed at Feb 4 at 12:06 pm. As such votes past then are not counted and will not be counted unless a senator asks for a rules suspension to count votes past that deadline.

Aye: 6 (MB, Muaddib, fhtagn, CM, TPH, Reagente)
Nay: 5 (Pyro, WB, LT, Jay, Nerd)

The bill passes. Considering the amount of votes past the deadline I will wait to present this to the president (as well as update the wall of shame) in case a senator wishes to count votes made to this point, which would result in a 7-7 tie.

There is also the question of counting Laki’s vote as he was a senator at the time but is not one now. If his vote is counted the bill would be tied, or it fails if all votes are counted

Looks like you missed Rfayette

mixed up TPH and Rfayette.

Looking at previous precedent, I am counting Laki's vote as well, which makes the current vote a 6-6 tie.

Aye: 6 (MB, Muaddib, fhtagn, CM, Rfayette, Reagente)
Nay: 6 (Pyro, WB, LT, Jay, Nerd, Laki)

Should all votes be counted, the vote shall be 8-7 against. Otherwise Cath will be contacted to make the tiebreaking vote.

[GM Team Member and Deputy PPT WB]

96 hours passed at Feb 4 at 12:06 pm. As such votes past then are not counted and will not be counted unless a senator asks for a rules suspension to count votes past that deadline.

Aye: 6 (MB, Muaddib, fhtagn, CM, TPH, Reagente)
Nay: 5 (Pyro, WB, LT, Jay, Nerd)

The bill passes. Considering the amount of votes past the deadline I will wait to present this to the president (as well as update the wall of shame) in case a senator wishes to count votes made to this point, which would result in a 7-7 tie.

There is also the question of counting Laki’s vote as he was a senator at the time but is not one now. If his vote is counted the bill would be tied, or it fails if all votes are counted

I motion to count all the votes.

is there an objection to waiving the rules to allow all votes to be counted?

[GM Team Member and Deputy PPT WB]

24 hours passing without objection, the rules are waived and all votes are counted. The final vote is as follows:

Aye: 7 (MB, Muaddib, fhtagn, CM, TPH, Reagente, Lord)
Nay: 8 (Pyro, WB, LT, Jay, Nerd, Laki, Griffin, Tim)
Abstain: 1 (Razze)

Absent: AFE, MB


Wall of Shame:
AFE: 7
MB: 1