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« Reply #50 on: June 09, 2024, 11:14:07 PM »

Their nomination of Trump risks them losing a very winnable race otherwise still. They are only favored in the Senate due to the map, and even then have suffered a recruitment failure which might only net them three seats at most. Their House majority is incredibly narrow, is at risk of being lost this year, and has been completely incompetent and unproductive, and wouldn't exist if they didn't acquire favorable redistricting in certain states.

It would be much harder for them to win with anyone but Trump.

It's another Obama parallel. Republicans not named Trump are losing and under-performing left and right when Trump isn't on the ballot. The electoral prospects of the Republican Party post-Trump look very bleak.

I look forward to President Don Jr.
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« Reply #51 on: June 09, 2024, 11:24:29 PM »



It will take years for the trans community to erase the damage done to their community by crazy rose twitter activists. Together with the backlash to Covid, BLM protests of 2020, DEI and Israel/Palestine, it really might be the start of a new conservative era of US history.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/06/06/gender-identity-sexual-orientation-and-the-2024-election/

Oh by the way, the whole Pew report is VERY interesting and totally worth a read. Really shows where the country stands at on cultural issues.

Blaming trans people for their own oppression is ing disgusting. Trans people were a convenient scapegoat for the right to rile up their base.
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« Reply #52 on: June 09, 2024, 11:32:54 PM »

Their nomination of Trump risks them losing a very winnable race otherwise still. They are only favored in the Senate due to the map, and even then have suffered a recruitment failure which might only net them three seats at most. Their House majority is incredibly narrow, is at risk of being lost this year, and has been completely incompetent and unproductive, and wouldn't exist if they didn't acquire favorable redistricting in certain states.

It would be much harder for them to win with anyone but Trump.

It's another Obama parallel. Republicans not named Trump are losing and under-performing left and right when Trump isn't on the ballot. The electoral prospects of the Republican Party post-Trump look very bleak.

I look forward to President Don Jr.

Don Jr. sucks. He's a cheap imitation and can't speak to the people that the real Donald Trump speaks to.
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« Reply #53 on: June 11, 2024, 12:48:01 PM »



It will take years for the trans community to erase the damage done to their community by crazy rose twitter activists. Together with the backlash to Covid, BLM protests of 2020, DEI and Israel/Palestine, it really might be the start of a new conservative era of US history.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/06/06/gender-identity-sexual-orientation-and-the-2024-election/

Oh by the way, the whole Pew report is VERY interesting and totally worth a read. Really shows where the country stands at on cultural issues.

Blaming trans people for their own oppression is ing disgusting. Trans people were a convenient scapegoat for the right to rile up their base.

I think it should be obvious that any activism the trans movement has been doing post 2017 has been completely ineffective and they need to reevaluate what they're doing.
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« Reply #54 on: June 13, 2024, 07:44:48 AM »



It will take years for the trans community to erase the damage done to their community by crazy rose twitter activists. Together with the backlash to Covid, BLM protests of 2020, DEI and Israel/Palestine, it really might be the start of a new conservative era of US history.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2024/06/06/gender-identity-sexual-orientation-and-the-2024-election/

Oh by the way, the whole Pew report is VERY interesting and totally worth a read. Really shows where the country stands at on cultural issues.

Blaming trans people for their own oppression is ing disgusting. Trans people were a convenient scapegoat for the right to rile up their base.

I think it should be obvious that any activism the trans movement has been doing post 2017 has been completely ineffective and they need to reevaluate what they're doing.

If you can't be specific i'm pretty sure that your just being a bigot that's looking to victim blame.
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« Reply #55 on: June 13, 2024, 04:51:10 PM »
« Edited: June 13, 2024, 04:59:27 PM by Bernie Derangement Syndrome Haver »

I wonder how much of this has to do with the explosion in trans identification, especially among youth, that some may feel is a trend or a “social contagion”. I don’t really think the idea that more people are coming out as trans now because it’s more socially acceptable in a similar way to how more gays came out as that became acceptable is correct. The new and rapidly evolving identities like non-binary, neopronouns, etc. are very new concepts at least at the mainstream level. Kids who feel different or awkward can now latch onto this type of language and self-identification as a means of explaining why they feel different and awkward, even if this won’t actually address the issue at hand for many of them. That’s a bit different from an immutable characteristic like being gay, or having gender dysphoria for that matter - that is something that people born that way will feel even if not being raised to know about gay or trans people.

Because the numbers are so rapidly rising in a way that doesn’t feel organic, and because the concepts are getting more complicated and hard to understand for well-meaning folk who don’t know anything about this (yet are not given enough grace when messing up), it can lead to resentment and a snap back to an extreme position of not recognizing any trans identities at all. I think a lot of people are seeing how so many young girls are suddenly coming out as non-binary and feeling like that has to be a social trend of sorts (like how in the past they would’ve been the emo kids or something). When people can see they someone’s trans identity is based in a trend, it can be easy to then dismiss all trans people as not having a legitimate reason for their identity — and the result is they decide that no one can truly be trans at all.

Is this victim blaming? I don’t think so. Support for gay people was won through respectability politics and increased visibility of us living ordinary lives without radically and forcefully requiring society to bend a knee to changes in language. Yes, there were gay activists screaming at folks, but they aren’t the ones who actually moved the needle even though they think that they were. Trans rights activists need to take a note from this. The longer the movement takes in troubled teens going through an edgy rebellious phase, the more acceptance will continue to fall. I’m sorry, but the hard truth is that although we can’t change every bigot’s mind, a lot of people are able to be won over out there - and it’s on US to act in ways that will win acceptance. It can’t come from anyone else. The ways in which we as LGBT people act is what drives opinions, and this is why I will always call out those who are acting in ways that are counterproductive. We can’t just cast aside people who disagree - all that does is drive a wedge further and makes changing society’s views harder. Call me a victim blamer all you want; as a gay man who has a very good relationship with my conservative family nothing will change my view on this.
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