Opinion of quote: "The US far-left would've supported the Nazis in WWII if Germans had darker skin"

[Mr. Ukucasha]

Full quote: "The American far-left's love for the far-right, fundamentalist Hamas regime could be attributed to their Americanized view of race relations. Those with darker complexions must always be oppressed, while those with white skin must always be oppressors. If Germans had significantly darker complexions than Russians/Britons, these people would've supported the Nazis in WWII."

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

No, this is crypto-white nationalist drivel, as well as a very dumb hypothetical (if the Nazis were dark-skinned, they wouldn't be Nazis)

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

BTW, any reflection on why the European far-right, including the parties who venerate Nazi collaborators and fearmonger about (((Soros))) and (((globalists))) uniformly support Israel?

[Greedo punched first]

Many on the American far-right oppose Israel. Jeff Rense is an example. The late Texe Marrs opposed Israel. Same with KJV-onlyist  and NIFB movement founder Steven L. Anderson of the Faithful Word Baptist Church. Anderson also called the LDS church a form of Islam.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

The US far-left did support the Nazis until Operation Barbarossa.

[Xing]

I have no idea how we’re even defining the “far left” anymore.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

The US far-left did support the Nazis until Operation Barbarossa.

I know I'm not going anywhere responding to BRTD but this is a radical oversimplification. I'm not one to defend the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact (to be clear, I'm probably one of the most moderate and Israel-sympathetic people in my circles) but the line taken by non-Soviet communist parties was the same as the Marxist take on World War I--that Germany, France, and Britain were all imperialist powers, and therefore the communists should stay out of it. There was no praise of or apologia for Nazi Germany, and in fact many Communists had volunteered to fight in Spain (for which they were investigated as "premature anti-fascists" by the US government).

And, of course, the CPUSA lost a lot of members in part due to Molotov-Ribbentrop, and there were other movements of the hard and far left which did explicitly support the Allies before June 22nd, 1941.

[HisGrace]

Hamas claiming that they have an inherent right to certain land due to their ethnicity and wanting to kill everyone else on said land is effectively what the Nazis position was regarding Eastern Europe. So this isn't really a hypothetical, that is what they're doing.

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It's curious, because in my recollection there was a significant axis power that the US had one or two skirmishes with a non-white populace.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Well, to start with if you're getting the calipers out and measuring skin pigmentation like an utter freak, then you will find strikingly little difference between Israelis and Palestinians, especially when taken in aggregate. The misconception to the contrary (which does appear common in certain circles) is... unhelpful.

[HisGrace]

It's curious, because in my recollection there was a significant axis power that the US had one or two skirmishes with a non-white populace.

That doesn't have anything to do with Germany though. Also there's plenty of ignorant woke kids today acting like the war with Japan was a "tragic misunderstanding" (remember the "discourse" around Oppenheimer) and claiming the nuclear attacks means the US was worse, while not saying anything like that about Germany even though we actually killed more German civilians through conventional bombings than died in the nuclear attacks. The things they did in China and SE Asia are certainly in the same ballpark as the Holocaust, the only variable here is that the Japanese aren't white.

Overheard a conversation between two NYU types on the subway and neither one of them could come up with a reason why we went to war with Japan and concluded it was none of our business and we should have stayed out of it. I guess they're too busy with woke indoctrination lessons in schools these days to let anyone know about minor historical events like Pearl f***ing Harbor.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

It's curious, because in my recollection there was a significant axis power that the US had one or two skirmishes with a non-white populace.

That doesn't have anything to do with Germany though. Also there's plenty of ignorant woke kids today acting like the war with Japan was a "tragic misunderstanding" (remember the "discourse" around Oppenheimer) and claiming the nuclear attacks means the US was worse

No one says this. Disagreement on where the use of the bomb was necessary or justifiable (Eisenhower disagreed with it) does not make you an Imperial Japan sympathizer.

[HisGrace]

It's curious, because in my recollection there was a significant axis power that the US had one or two skirmishes with a non-white populace.

That doesn't have anything to do with Germany though. Also there's plenty of ignorant woke kids today acting like the war with Japan was a "tragic misunderstanding" (remember the "discourse" around Oppenheimer) and claiming the nuclear attacks means the US was worse

No one says this. Disagreement on where the use of the bomb was necessary or justifiable (Eisenhower disagreed with it) does not make you an Imperial Japan sympathizer.

I've absolutely heard people saying things like that in the Reddit/woke twitter sphere and it's an increasingly common view amongst young people who couldn't tell you anything about the Sino-Japanese war and might not even know that Pearl Harbor happened as in the subway example.

And even with your stated position there's still a double standard. If they think that Japanese civilians didn't deserve to die for the actions of their government then why don't they recognize that with the Israelis? And why don't I ever hear them denouncing the carpet bombings of urban areas in Germany that killed far more people when they go on and on about the nuclear attacks? If it's white people dying for their collective sins they're fine with it.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

It's curious, because in my recollection there was a significant axis power that the US had one or two skirmishes with a non-white populace.

That doesn't have anything to do with Germany though. Also there's plenty of ignorant woke kids today acting like the war with Japan was a "tragic misunderstanding" (remember the "discourse" around Oppenheimer) and claiming the nuclear attacks means the US was worse

No one says this.

https://talkelections.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=558404.0

[quesaisje]

Just about every significant political faction of our times would have been a hindrance to the Allied powers had it been a factor in their wartime politics, whether or not it was in open sympathy with their enemies.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

It's curious, because in my recollection there was a significant axis power that the US had one or two skirmishes with a non-white populace.

That doesn't have anything to do with Germany though. Also there's plenty of ignorant woke kids today acting like the war with Japan was a "tragic misunderstanding" (remember the "discourse" around Oppenheimer) and claiming the nuclear attacks means the US was worse

No one says this. Disagreement on where the use of the bomb was necessary or justifiable (Eisenhower disagreed with it) does not make you an Imperial Japan sympathizer.

I've absolutely heard people saying things like that in the Reddit/woke twitter sphere and it's an increasingly common view amongst young people who couldn't tell you anything about the Sino-Japanese war and might not even know that Pearl Harbor happened as in the subway example.

And even with your stated position there's still a double standard. If they think that Japanese civilians didn't deserve to die for the actions of their government then why don't they recognize that with the Israelis? And why don't I ever hear them denouncing the carpet bombings of urban areas in Germany that killed far more people when they go on and on about the nuclear attacks? If it's white people dying for their collective sins they're fine with it.

There's famously zero historical debate on the merits of the Dresden bombings.